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Could this happen? Would 45 dare?
Posted by: samintx
Date: September 19, 2022 09:19PM
If the Feds tell 45 he is being criminally prosecuted, would he say “You do and I will give info from copied Classified docs to __xyz__.”

Would he dare this type of blackmail?
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Re: Could this happen? Would 45 dare?
Posted by: mattkime
Date: September 19, 2022 09:30PM
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samintx
If the Feds tell 45 he is being criminally prosecuted, would he say “You do and I will give info from copied Classified docs to __xyz__.”

Would he dare this type of blackmail?

I don't think that would end well for him.



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Re: Could this happen? Would 45 dare?
Posted by: Speedy
Date: September 19, 2022 10:08PM
Why, yes, yes he would. But I imagine those that want those files have already accessed them from him. It seems to me there are a lot more covers marked top secret than there are files to fill them.



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Re: Could this happen? Would 45 dare?
Posted by: Carnos Jax
Date: September 19, 2022 10:08PM
^^^This
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Re: Could this happen? Would 45 dare?
Posted by: steve...
Date: September 19, 2022 10:10PM
He's already insinuating there would be violence if he's indicted.

He said that he declassified the documents. If they're declassified, why doesn't he publish them? It's because they're NOT declassified and sharing them would be criminal.





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Re: Could this happen? Would 45 dare?
Posted by: Ca Bob
Date: September 19, 2022 10:16PM
It's possible, if done in a Trumpian way, as in a subtle threat couched as a prediction of some future event. The way to handle such a surprise would be to confront him on it directly. It would be hard for him to hold onto documents with which to blackmail the United States, and it would subject him to further searches, but he might suggest (ever so subtly) that there could be critically important documents etc etc.

The one thing that people would find hard to believe is that Trump has important knowledge in his head that he could threaten to use, although it is not entirely impossible. Maybe he knows the names of half a dozen deeply embedded spies.

My guess would be that the intelligence agencies have been doing their best to modify procedures, change codes, and replace deep agents as best they can due to their suspicions about Trump.

The other possibility is that our intelligence agencies already know that Trump is untrustworthy, possibly has been a Russian asset, and in any case is entirely amoral, being the sociopath that he his, and being motivated by his need for personal grandiosity and revenge. They may already have evidence that he has sold or tried to trade secrets, but they cannot reveal this for obvious reasons.
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Re: Could this happen? Would 45 dare?
Posted by: Blankity Blank
Date: September 20, 2022 05:37AM
I guess somebody has to be the first former President executed for espionage/treason.



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Re: Could this happen? Would 45 dare?
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: September 20, 2022 08:44AM
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Blankity Blank
I guess somebody has to be the first former President executed for espionage/treason.

Now you're talkin'.
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Re: Could this happen? Would 45 dare?
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: September 20, 2022 09:19AM
The funny thing is... that threat would indicate that he still has possession of TS/SCI documents. Which would initiate another set of raids and confiscation of every piece of paper and electronics in all his gold plated crash pads.

So yeah.. go for it. Gitmo is still in operation, you know.
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Re: Could this happen? Would 45 dare?
Posted by: Tiangou
Date: September 20, 2022 04:39PM
I think if it happened, I think you’d have problems in this country. Some people, I don't know them. People would do something. Patriots. Freedom. And maybe some of them.

And it’s not going to happen by the way, but if it did then you'd see our beloved country. And that’s what they want to do, which in my opinion only makes us more determined. Not me, but people. It would never end.

And now the unprecedented weaponization of the justice department and the FBI. The way they win is to cheat. Use the FBI to spy. They want to censor me. And by the way, the FBI colluded with Russia. It was the FBI that it colluded. It wasn’t Trump. We got to fix our country. It’s so sad, but something could leak.

Not me. But I’d like to ask, see, if I was Biden, I would’ve done that, but before I did, where Hunter Biden’s laptop was Russian disinformation, there is egregious acts of voting irregularities and fraud.

Something could leak. Not just coming after me. We are a nation that is allowing Iran to build a massive nuclear weapon in China. And it’s not going to happen by the way. The democrats enemies to be canceled and suppress. The thugs and tyrants attacking our movement. People are mad.




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Re: Could this happen? Would 45 dare?
Posted by: Blankity Blank
Date: September 20, 2022 05:21PM
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cbelt3
So yeah.. go for it. Gitmo is still in operation, you know.





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Re: Could this happen? Would 45 dare?
Posted by: pdq
Date: September 21, 2022 02:31PM
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Tiangou
I think if it happened, I think you’d have problems in this country. Some people, I don't know them. People would do something. Patriots. Freedom. And maybe some of them.

And it’s not going to happen by the way, but if it did then you'd see our beloved country. And that’s what they want to do, which in my opinion only makes us more determined. Not me, but people. It would never end.

And now the unprecedented weaponization of the justice department and the FBI. The way they win is to cheat. Use the FBI to spy. They want to censor me. And by the way, the FBI colluded with Russia. It was the FBI that it colluded. It wasn’t Trump. We got to fix our country. It’s so sad, but something could leak.

Not me. But I’d like to ask, see, if I was Biden, I would’ve done that, but before I did, where Hunter Biden’s laptop was Russian disinformation, there is egregious acts of voting irregularities and fraud.

Something could leak. Not just coming after me. We are a nation that is allowing Iran to build a massive nuclear weapon in China. And it’s not going to happen by the way. The democrats enemies to be canceled and suppress. The thugs and tyrants attacking our movement. People are mad.

More Trumpian word salad.
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Re: Could this happen? Would 45 dare?
Posted by: Tiangou
Date: September 21, 2022 04:39PM
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pdq
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Tiangou
I think if it happened, I think you’d have problems in this country. Some people, I don't know them. People would do something. Patriots. Freedom. And maybe some of them.

And it’s not going to happen by the way, but if it did then you'd see our beloved country. And that’s what they want to do, which in my opinion only makes us more determined. Not me, but people. It would never end.

And now the unprecedented weaponization of the justice department and the FBI. The way they win is to cheat. Use the FBI to spy. They want to censor me. And by the way, the FBI colluded with Russia. It was the FBI that it colluded. It wasn’t Trump. We got to fix our country. It’s so sad, but something could leak.

Not me. But I’d like to ask, see, if I was Biden, I would’ve done that, but before I did, where Hunter Biden’s laptop was Russian disinformation, there is egregious acts of voting irregularities and fraud.

Something could leak. Not just coming after me. We are a nation that is allowing Iran to build a massive nuclear weapon in China. And it’s not going to happen by the way. The democrats enemies to be canceled and suppress. The thugs and tyrants attacking our movement. People are mad.

More Trumpian word salad.

Ummm... Maybe I should have put a disclaimer at the top. I thought it was obvious satire.

I took some quotes from his speeches and added the bits about a "leak" as an illustration of a potential response of his to a situation like that proposed in the OP.

He would spew such babble as to maintain either plausible deniability or an insanity defense.



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Re: Could this happen? Would 45 dare?
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: September 21, 2022 05:34PM
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Tiangou
Ummm... Maybe I should have put a disclaimer at the top. I thought it was obvious satire.

Given Emperor Gluteus Maximus' difficulty in constructing coherent sentences, it's never obvious.
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