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Devotion to Trump
Posted by: Ted King
Date: September 23, 2022 12:03PM
I've been thinking about how Trump's cult has a religious feel to it but it's not like a religion on many ways. And then the word "devotion" popped into my head. That's a shared area in the "religion/Trump cult" Venn diagram.

One of the definitions of "devotion" is, "the fact or state of being ardently dedicated and loyal". That is true of strong believers in a religion and also true of the Trump cult. I also think that at heart being devoted to Trump is like being devoted to a religion in that they both take a significant leap of faith that is aside from rationality.

Just a small thing, but thinking about devotion kind of tidied up my bit of a muddle about how Trump's cult feels like it has a religious zeal to it so often.



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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/23/2022 12:04PM by Ted King.
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Re: Devotion to Trump
Posted by: Speedy
Date: September 23, 2022 12:04PM
Faith. It matters.



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Re: Devotion to Trump
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: September 23, 2022 12:42PM
People want to belong to something and Trump gave them that. He marketed politics by offering a secret decoder ring. That was not something that the political parties had really done before. We saw a bit of it when Ross Perot first ran, but the world wasn't quite there yet.

It isn't that Trump delivers on all of his promises, it is that he delivers on the most important one - that the others aren't going to get theirs delivered either.



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Re: Devotion to Trump
Posted by: $tevie
Date: September 23, 2022 01:34PM
MAGAs think that white people are losing their power and that Trump will restore them to their rightful place at the top of the heap. They are devoted to him because he is their "savior", saving them from dark and swarthy menaces.



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Re: Devotion to Trump
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: September 23, 2022 03:08PM
In my rural community in SC, the Trump signs, flags and bumper stickers have disappeared. Completely. I noticed this over the past month in particular.

They were accustomed to his financial shenanigans, but I think the document stealing was a deal breaker for some folks.

The question is who gets their allegiance now, if anyone. Lots of these people were politically apathetic before.
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Re: Devotion to Trump
Posted by: Acer
Date: September 23, 2022 03:37PM
In my recent voyage from Pittsburgh to Altoona, through very red territory, the Trump signs were notably sparse. There were more than a few Mastriano signs, though. (That's our Trump-endorsed GOP Governor nominee, and a Jan 6 participant.) Even if the shine is off the orange, they are still looking for that sort of "leader" to latch on to.
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Re: Devotion to Trump
Posted by: hal
Date: September 23, 2022 04:36PM
The last Trump election was quite a while ago...
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Re: Devotion to Trump
Posted by: PeterB
Date: September 23, 2022 04:46PM
I posted these in another thread, but very much worth reviewing:

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Re: Devotion to Trump
Posted by: Acer
Date: September 23, 2022 05:57PM
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hal
The last Trump election was quite a while ago...

Yeah, well, Jesus died two centuries ago, yet here we are.
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Re: Devotion to Trump
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: September 23, 2022 06:05PM
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Acer
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The last Trump election was quite a while ago...

Yeah, well, Jesus died two centuries ago, yet here we are.

2 millennia ago?



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Re: Devotion to Trump
Posted by: Speedy
Date: September 23, 2022 06:27PM
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Lemon Drop
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Acer
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The last Trump election was quite a while ago...

Yeah, well, Jesus died two centuries ago, yet here we are.

2 millennia ago?

It’s about faith. Some things, like science, can be proven/disproven. Other things are faith. With faith, two centuries or two millennia, there is no difference.



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Re: Devotion to Trump
Posted by: Acer
Date: September 23, 2022 08:02PM
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Lemon Drop
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Acer
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hal
The last Trump election was quite a while ago...

Yeah, well, Jesus died two centuries ago, yet here we are.

2 millennia ago?

I messed up another perfect snark. Oh well, you get the point.
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Re: Devotion to Trump
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: September 23, 2022 08:17PM
It’s about faith.


I think there's got to be a better, more accurate choice than 'faith'.

Something like devotion that connotes the darkness and evil that lurks in the hearts of men.

Because offering faith to an evil 'savior' for evil reasons, bastardizes and corrupts any positive aspect of the word, to me.






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Re: Devotion to Trump
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: September 23, 2022 08:57PM
"Cult" is the word you're looking for.
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Re: Devotion to Trump
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: September 23, 2022 09:53PM
No disrespect intended, but it was blindingly, blatantly obvious that this had been the case ever since he declared his intention to run. At that time, I believed that he simply wanted to film his "campaign" for a reality show. He knew that he had a "following" from his television shows, although even he did not realize that they were a cult in the making, that these "disciples" would do his bidding and blindly follow him no matter the moral offsets they had to draw.
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Re: Devotion to Trump
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: September 24, 2022 09:08AM
"If you give the people a light, they'll follow it anywhere."

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Re: Devotion to Trump
Posted by: TheCaber
Date: September 24, 2022 01:25PM
Firesign Theatre (1970), "Don't Crush That Dwarf, Hand Me The Pliers"

Ahh, the joys of misspent youth...



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Re: Devotion to Trump
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: September 26, 2022 07:21AM
Started this thread with Olivia Newton John stuck in my head and ended it with George Michael.
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