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Roger Waters, WTF?
Posted by: gadje
Date: September 25, 2022 05:40PM
I am a big time fan of Pink Floyd, but your letter let me down.

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Re: Roger Waters, WTF?
Posted by: Tiangou
Date: September 25, 2022 06:05PM
Waters means well, but he's astonishingly gullible when it comes to conspiracy theories.

More-specifically he's been an antisemitic conspiracy nutter for decades.

It doesn't take much in the way of Russian and Chinese Facebook propaganda to turn him whichever way they want. All they have to do is allege a Jewish conspiracy behind any Western government action and he's theirs.



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Re: Roger Waters, WTF?
Posted by: vision63
Date: September 25, 2022 06:13PM
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Tiangou
Waters means well, but he's astonishingly gullible when it comes to conspiracy theories.

More-specifically he's been an antisemitic conspiracy nutter for decades.

It doesn't take much in the way of Russian and Chinese Facebook propaganda to turn him whichever way they want. All they have to do is allege a Jewish conspiracy behind any Western government action and he's theirs.

He needs to tap out of these things. Nobody worked harder than Roger to create an impeccable body of work over a lifetime. Why weigh in now?
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Re: Roger Waters, WTF?
Posted by: Tiangou
Date: September 25, 2022 06:35PM
By now, we should be able to distinguish the art from the man behind it.

Did Kanye and R. Kelly teach us nothing?



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Re: Roger Waters, WTF?
Posted by: August West
Date: September 25, 2022 08:20PM
And he's hitting 80...



“There comes a point where we need to stop just pulling people out of the river. We need to go upstream and find out why they’re falling in."

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Re: Roger Waters, WTF?
Posted by: gadje
Date: September 25, 2022 08:24PM
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Tiangou
By now, we should be able to distinguish the art from the man behind it.

Did Kanye and R. Kelly teach us nothing?

There is a grain of truth here, but speaking about these two artists you mention, I am not a fan of either of them.
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Re: Roger Waters, WTF?
Posted by: Fritz
Date: September 26, 2022 07:16AM
bad acid trip



!#$@@$#!

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Re: Roger Waters, WTF?
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: September 26, 2022 07:17AM
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Tiangou
By now, we should be able to distinguish the art from the man behind it.

Did Kanye and R. Kelly teach us nothing?

And Eric Farking Clapton.
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Re: Roger Waters, WTF?
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: September 26, 2022 07:40AM
”A week before 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine, Waters said to a RT interviewer that the talk of an attack is ‘bull-@#$%&’ and propaganda demonizing Russia.”

“Waters was commended for this position by Dmitry Medvedev, Deputy Chairman of the Russian Security Council.“
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Re: Roger Waters, WTF?
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: September 26, 2022 09:24AM
Obviously a few bricks shy of a wall...
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Re: Roger Waters, WTF?
Posted by: kj
Date: September 26, 2022 10:55AM
Why would musicians be experts on international relations? Or anything else, for that matter. Why do people care what celebrities think about stuff? They're generally idiots, like everyone else.
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Re: Roger Waters, WTF?
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: September 26, 2022 03:03PM
They're generally idiots, like everyone else.


Just like people here.

What is this tying one's occupation to the right to have an opinion, and precluding the possibility they know what they're talking about?

That's something a racist would say, the type of 'logic' a racist would use.

There are also people in any field of discussion that aren't experts, when many of them should be.

Yes, idiots like everyone else.






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Re: Roger Waters, WTF?
Posted by: kj
Date: September 27, 2022 07:22PM
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RAMd®d
They're generally idiots, like everyone else.


Just like people here.

What is this tying one's occupation to the right to have an opinion, and precluding the possibility they know what they're talking about?

That's something a racist would say, the type of 'logic' a racist would use.

There are also people in any field of discussion that aren't experts, when many of them should be.

Yes, idiots like everyone else.

I'm talking about putting more weight on what celebrities say, which clearly happens a lot. They are good at acting (sometimes), which doesn't mean a thing about other complex issues. When's the last time 4 million people read your opinion on twitter? Celebrities have more sway than they should, and I don't put any more faith in what they say than I do in what you say. I don't know what you're talking about re: race? This has absolutely zero to do with race.
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Re: Roger Waters, WTF?
Posted by: Speedy
Date: September 27, 2022 07:59PM
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RAMd®d
They're generally idiots, like everyone else.


Just like people here.

What is this tying one's occupation to the right to have an opinion, and precluding the possibility they know what they're talking about?

That's something a racist would say, the type of 'logic' a racist would use.

There are also people in any field of discussion that aren't experts, when many of them should be.

Yes, idiots like everyone else.

I like to think we are well informed idiots.



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