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AP: "Oath Keepers trial: ‘Armed rebellion’ plan, prosecutor says"
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: October 03, 2022 10:31AM
Rhodes’ lawyers are poised to argue that jurors cannot find him guilty of seditious conspiracy because all the actions he took before Jan. 6 were in preparation for orders he anticipated from Trump — orders that never came.

Oath Keepers trial: ‘Armed rebellion’ plan, prosecutor says'
[apnews.com]

WASHINGTON (AP) — The founder of the Oath Keepers extremist group and four associates planned for an “armed rebellion” to stop the transfer of presidential power on Jan. 6, 2021, prosecutors told jurors Monday at the opening of the most serious case to reach trial in the attack on the U.S. Capitol.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Jeffrey Nestler delivered his an opening statement in Washington’s federal court in the trial of Stewart Rhodes and others charged with seditious conspiracy. They are accused of a weekslong plot to stop the transfer of power from Republican Donald Trump to Democrat Joe Biden.

“Their goal was to stop by whatever means necessary the lawful transfer of presidential power, including by taking up arms against the United States government,” he said. “They concocted a plan for armed rebellion to shatter a bedrock of American democracy.”

The Oath Keepers planned their conspiracy “in plain sight,” Nestler said, noting open letters Rhodes published on the group’s website. They also used encrypted apps, like Signal, to message in secret, he said.

Defense attorneys will also get their first chance to address jurors, who were chosen last week after days of questioning over their feelings about the insurrection, Trump supporters and other matters. The judge on Monday denied another request from the defense attorneys to move the trial out of D.C., where they contend the jury pool is biased against them.
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the Oath Keepers are the first to stand trial on seditious conspiracy, a rare Civil War-era charge that carries up to 20 years behind bars. The trial is expected to last several weeks.

Prosecutors will tell jurors that the insurrection for the antigovernment group was not a spontaneous outpouring of election-fueled rage but part of a drawn-out plot to stop Biden from entering the White House.
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Re: AP: "Oath Keepers trial: ‘Armed rebellion’ plan, prosecutor says"
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: October 03, 2022 10:57AM
Good.

Now do Trump and Meadows.
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Re: AP: "Oath Keepers trial: ‘Armed rebellion’ plan, prosecutor says"
Posted by: pdq
Date: October 03, 2022 11:22AM
Similar sort of sentiment from another defense lawyer in another Jan 6 case:

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Ryals and "two like-minded friends" drove from Oklahoma to Washington, DC, to hear Trump speak at the "Stop the Steal" rally that preceded the riot, according to court documents. Ryals took several photos and videos of himself and others at the riot, prosecutors said, including one in which he said "we definitely have enough people to overthrow this bitch". ["They don't stand a f---ing chance"]

...and there he is in the Capitol with other rioters, and in a congressional office (upper right):



Charged with obstruction of an official proceeding, entering and remaining, and disorderly conduct.

Aw, shucks, sez his lawyer. He's just...

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...a "gentle giant" who was betrayed by former President Donald Trump's election lies.

He accepted a plea deal of "civil disorder" in May, and while federal sentencing guidelines max out at 5 years for the charge, his lawyer is trying to get him off with no jail time.

IIRC, the last time the "I was just following orders" defense was used, the defendants were soldiers, and the guy who had given the orders was dead.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/03/2022 11:26AM by pdq.
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Re: AP: "Oath Keepers trial: ‘Armed rebellion’ plan, prosecutor says"
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: October 03, 2022 11:37AM
Yes these were their useful idiots, but the masterminds are alive and well and free. it's going to be a travesty and a danger to let them escape justice.
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Re: AP: "Oath Keepers trial: ‘Armed rebellion’ plan, prosecutor says"
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: October 03, 2022 01:08PM
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pdq
He accepted a plea deal of "civil disorder" in May, and while federal sentencing guidelines max out at 5 years for the charge, his lawyer is trying to get him off with no jail time.

I'm fine with no jail time.

Just hang him now.
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Re: AP: "Oath Keepers trial: ‘Armed rebellion’ plan, prosecutor says"
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: October 03, 2022 04:29PM
Well, at least we know who's his daddy.



Hurts like a bastid...
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