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it can't happen here
Posted by: Fritz
Date: October 05, 2022 01:07PM
Re: it can't happen here
Posted by: pdq
Date: October 05, 2022 01:22PM
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At a Trump rally in Michigan on Saturday night, Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene, a Republican from Georgia, said that “Democrats want Republicans dead”

Projection much? Geez, these are the weirdos that were getting their shorts in an excited knot over the possibility of televised executions of Biden and supporters.

Civil war? Not gonna happen. It's their little fantasy.

If it ever did, these keyboard commandos would wet their shorts the first time they saw an attack helicopter. But at least they wouldn't have to change their clothes cause they'd be dead shortly thereafter.
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Re: it can't happen here
Posted by: Carnos Jax
Date: October 05, 2022 02:58PM
I agree, it won’t happen. As I’ve stated before, these guys are all talk. There’s too few of them deluded enough to take up arms. Because despite all their whining, the.vast majority of them know they have it good historically speaking. Why they would give up their sofas and bonbons to put themselves through the bell of a civil war? Just not gonna happen, LOL.
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Re: it can't happen here
Posted by: Ted King
Date: October 05, 2022 03:10PM
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Carnos Jax
I agree, it won’t happen. As I’ve stated before, these guys are all talk. There’s too few of them deluded enough to take up arms. Because despite all their whining, the.vast majority of them know they have it good historically speaking. Why they would give up their sofas and bonbons to put themselves through the bell of a civil war? Just not gonna happen, LOL.

I think that what you say is true with the exception of a few percent that are alienated and angry looking to blame someone even to the point of violence (e.g., Proud Boys). I think the problem is that though the vast majority of the tens of millions of people will keep their grievances this side of the violence line, a small percent of tens of millions is still a lot of people. Whether they can coalesce into groups that can effectively actualize much violence is, I think, an open question.



e pluribus unum
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Re: it can't happen here
Posted by: pdq
Date: October 05, 2022 03:39PM
Just to be clear, if your definition of “civil war” inludes stuff like this:



…then yeah, that may (unfortunately) happen (again).

But more than individual nutjobs, or small groups of neckbeards? I doubt it.
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Re: it can't happen here
Posted by: Carnos Jax
Date: October 05, 2022 03:58PM
Right, stuff like what Ted and pdq describe may very well happen. But at that scale it’s nothing more than terrorism. Even when McVeigh blew his wad, he expected it to trigger a wider rebellion, but ended up being nothing more than a criminal act.
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Re: it can't happen here
Posted by: Fritz
Date: October 05, 2022 06:12PM
even if it were to happen once....

was Jan 6 all talk? Not from what I've seen.
J6 was not a close call? VP Pence looked a bit scared.
As did many others.

Mobs mentality can be frightening.
Have a look at Blair Mountain and Wilmington 1898.
Charlottesville 2017.

[ ] is doing what it can to rouse the "troops"
Yes, [ ] is doing what [ ] can to divert attention from [ ].
But there are more actionable idiots than there were in '95.
Don't believe for a second those who testified "I was fooled" or "caught up".

Some of the under 40s that I work with have expressed concern over civil war. Didn't think I'd ever hear that.



!#$@@$#!

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Re: it can't happen here
Posted by: Carnos Jax
Date: October 05, 2022 06:28PM
They did not have enough seditionists on Jan 6 to enforce their will on the country. On the contrary, if things got much further out of hand, the rest of the country would have gone to town on their collective asses.
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Re: it can't happen here
Posted by: Bill in NC
Date: October 06, 2022 08:58AM
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Carnos Jax
I agree, it won’t happen. As I’ve stated before, these guys are all talk. There’s too few of them deluded enough to take up arms. Because despite all their whining, the.vast majority of them know they have it good historically speaking. Why they would give up their sofas and bonbons to put themselves through the bell of a civil war? Just not gonna happen, LOL.

The "motivated" ones already went to DC on January 6, attacked federal LEOs. and got 5+ years in federal prison (remember, no parole) for their trouble.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/06/2022 08:59AM by Bill in NC.
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Re: it can't happen here
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: October 06, 2022 04:10PM
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pdq
Just to be clear, if your definition of “civil war” inludes stuff like this:

[www.fbi.gov]

…then yeah, that may (unfortunately) happen (again).

But more than individual nutjobs, or small groups of neckbeards? I doubt it.

That's just garden-variety domestic terrorism.

And it will probably happen again.

But the Gravy SEALs of Meal Team Slx are not going start a civil war.
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