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Mother with three kids crying in checkout line
Posted by: chopper
Date: November 06, 2022 05:54AM
I had to grab some milk and pizza sauce at the food store yesterday.

Mom with three kids in front of me. A lot of the stuff on the counter was generic or "great value" stuff.

$298 bill. She said to the clerk that this is her normal shopping list to feed her family for 2.5 weeks. It used to cost about $170. She had to use a credit card and all the cash in her wallet, finally counting out coins and putting a small pork roast back. She was almost crying. She was full on crying in her car when I walked to my truck.

I only had $20 on me.
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Re: Mother with three kids crying in checkout line
Posted by: Microman
Date: November 06, 2022 08:15AM
Sad story.... and I cant help... wish I could.
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Re: Mother with three kids crying in checkout line
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: November 06, 2022 08:36AM
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chopper
$298 bill. She said to the clerk that this is her normal shopping list to feed her family for 2.5 weeks. It used to cost about $170.

If my math is correct, that represents a 75.3% increase!

Wouldn't that "$170" have been about the cost over 22 years ago...



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Re: Mother with three kids crying in checkout line
Posted by: DP
Date: November 06, 2022 08:51AM
Sad story.... and I cant help... wish I could.

Yes, you can! Vote Tuesday...




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Re: Mother with three kids crying in checkout line
Posted by: btfc
Date: November 06, 2022 09:02AM
A nice fat tax cut for the rich will solve everything...
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Re: Mother with three kids crying in checkout line
Posted by: mattkime
Date: November 06, 2022 09:08AM
Sounds like a lot of prepackaged food. Fruit, veg, and meat won't last that long uncooked.

...but yes, it sounds like a story to illustrate a political viewpoint.


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Re: Mother with three kids crying in checkout line
Posted by: freeradical
Date: November 06, 2022 09:53AM
The price of latte's has not gone up...
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Re: Mother with three kids crying in checkout line
Posted by: davemchine
Date: November 06, 2022 09:57AM
My own grocery spending was up by 85% last month compared to a year ago. How much of that is choices vs inflation I can't say. I've noticed meat prices are WAY up from the past. If you want to help those in need consider donating to your local food bank or to someone you know personally who is struggling.


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Re: Mother with three kids crying in checkout line
Posted by: Rolando
Date: November 06, 2022 10:05AM
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davemchine
My own grocery spending was up by 85% last month compared to a year ago. How much of that is choices vs inflation I can't say. I've noticed meat prices are WAY up from the past. If you want to help those in need consider donating to your local food bank or to someone you know personally who is struggling.

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Re: Mother with three kids crying in checkout line
Posted by: davester
Date: November 06, 2022 10:05AM
US grocery inflation is 13% 0ver the last year so this story is bogus. Inflation is a worldwide, not solely US, problem caused by the lingering supply/demand problems associated with Covid and the war in Ukraine. Also note that voting won't help because US politicians don't have the tools to deal with these worldwide issues, and because approximately 40% of inflation in the US is due to large corporations profiteering off of the supply/demand problem.


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Re: Mother with three kids crying in checkout line
Posted by: Carnos Jax
Date: November 06, 2022 10:10AM
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DeusxMac
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chopper
$298 bill. She said to the clerk that this is her normal shopping list to feed her family for 2.5 weeks. It used to cost about $170.

If my math is correct, that represents a 75.3% increase!

Wouldn't that "$170" have been about the cost over 22 years ago...



[www.usinflationcalculator.com]


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btfc
A nice fat tax cut for the rich will solve everything...


Plus corporate (including oil) profits are at record levels. Couple this with record high employment levels (i.e. low unemployment) and the resulting difficulty in finding enough workers, resulting in high wages (this is generally a good thing). Further exacerbating all of this is record drought caused by climate change (less water to grow food out west, low river levels in the Mississippi causing huge delays in shipping here by forcing the use of more expensive shipping methods).
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Re: Mother with three kids crying in checkout line
Posted by: Carnos Jax
Date: November 06, 2022 10:12AM
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davester
US grocery inflation is 13% 0ver the last year so this story is bogus. Inflation is a worldwide, not solely US, problem caused by the lingering supply/demand problems associated with Covid and the war in Ukraine. Also note that voting won't help because US politicians don't have the tools to deal with these worldwide issues, and because approximately 40% of inflation in the US is due to large corporations profiteering off of the supply/demand problem.

Well said davester.
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Re: Mother with three kids crying in checkout line
Posted by: gadje
Date: November 06, 2022 10:29AM
Number of people: 4 (mother with 3 kids). Maybe 5 is there is a significant other.

the bill is for 2.5 weeks.

$298 / 4 /2.5 = $30/week/person

It does not seem that bad.
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Re: Mother with three kids crying in checkout line
Posted by: DP
Date: November 06, 2022 10:54AM
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davester
US grocery inflation is 13% 0ver the last year so this story is bogus. Inflation is a worldwide, not solely US, problem caused by the lingering supply/demand problems associated with Covid and the war in Ukraine. Also note that voting won't help because US politicians don't have the tools to deal with these worldwide issues, and because approximately 40% of inflation in the US is due to large corporations profiteering off of the supply/demand problem.

Well said davester.

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Re: Mother with three kids crying in checkout line
Posted by: btfc
Date: November 06, 2022 11:20AM
She should apply for Food Lobster Stamps...


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Re: Mother with three kids crying in checkout line
Posted by: S. Pupp
Date: November 06, 2022 11:42AM
This is, from the start, a political post which belongs on the other side.
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Re: Mother with three kids crying in checkout line
Posted by: GGD
Date: November 06, 2022 11:48AM
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davemchine
I've noticed meat prices are WAY up from the past.

This is a loss leader, but Costco's rotisserie chickens have stayed at $4.99 for a 3lb chicken. One store I sometimes go to has a scale for customer use and I bring 2-3 chunky looking chickens over there and weigh them to pick my winner, they're always over 3lbs, the big looking ones are over 4lbs, and my record is 5.20lbs. Some of the weight may come from liquid juices/fat in the bottom of the tray, but still a bargain.

Their $1.50 hot dog and unlimited refill soda is also a loss leader, they sell the soda separately for $0.69, so it's an extra $0.81 for the hot dog.

In normal grocery stores I have noticed large increases is the cost of 2-Liter bottles of soft drinks. Used to be the on-sale price of Diet Pepsi was $1.00-$1.25/bottle. Now it's more like $2.00-$2.25. Even the price of Walmart's store brand soft drinks have gone up from about $0.69/bottle to $1.12 over the past few years. I suspect that transportation / fuel costs are behind these increases since all of this stuff is basically water, but water is heavy. The non-sale price of name brand soft drinks costs more per gallon than gasoline.
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Re: Mother with three kids crying in checkout line
Posted by: Numo
Date: November 06, 2022 11:57AM
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davester
US grocery inflation is 13% 0ver the last year so this story is bogus. Inflation is a worldwide, not solely US, problem caused by the lingering supply/demand problems associated with Covid and the war in Ukraine. Also note that voting won't help because US politicians don't have the tools to deal with these worldwide issues, and because approximately 40% of inflation in the US is due to large corporations profiteering off of the supply/demand problem.

To say overall grocery inflation is 13% is one thing, but that doesn’t mean everyone is paying 13% more at the checkout line. It all depends on what’s in your cart. My wife is an extremely frugal shopper and never splurges - basic food, no beef and very little other meat. I accompanied her to the grocery store last week and was shocked at how prices have climbed for the things we normally buy.

I would be very wary of disbelieving this woman’s experience.
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Re: Mother with three kids crying in checkout line
Posted by: voodoopenguin
Date: November 06, 2022 12:06PM
Over here there was a campaign launched after it was noticed that many of the supermarkets had cut their range of budget items. This meant that although the average grocery bill had gone up for everybody the percentage rise for those who would normally buy the low price items was huge. As these were predominantly bought by the least well off it meant they were hit the most.

Paul



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Re: Mother with three kids crying in checkout line
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: November 06, 2022 12:17PM
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Ammo
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davester
US grocery inflation is 13% 0ver the last year so this story is bogus. Inflation is a worldwide, not solely US, problem caused by the lingering supply/demand problems associated with Covid and the war in Ukraine. Also note that voting won't help because US politicians don't have the tools to deal with these worldwide issues, and because approximately 40% of inflation in the US is due to large corporations profiteering off of the supply/demand problem.

To say overall grocery inflation is 13% is one thing, but that doesn’t mean everyone is paying 13% more at the checkout line. It all depends on what’s in your cart. My wife is an extremely frugal shopper and never splurges - basic food, no beef and very little other meat. I accompanied her to the grocery store last week and was shocked at how prices have climbed for the things we normally buy.

I would be very wary of disbelieving this woman’s experience.

I do the grocery shopping and the increase in food prices is more than 13%. Some items are possibly less than this amount, but the vast majority are higher. Eggs are up at least 50%, milk and dairy goods are about 15%,meat varies wildly, and some slaes are 0% over last year, and some varieties are 40%. This is only natural, as prices for transportation have increased, as well as the normal wage and benefits cost to employers have also increased.


Hurts like a bastid...
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Re: Mother with three kids crying in checkout line
Posted by: davester
Date: November 06, 2022 12:48PM
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Ammo
To say overall grocery inflation is 13% is one thing, but that doesn’t mean everyone is paying 13% more at the checkout line. It all depends on what’s in your cart. My wife is an extremely frugal shopper and never splurges - basic food, no beef and very little other meat. I accompanied her to the grocery store last week and was shocked at how prices have climbed for the things we normally buy.

I would be very wary of disbelieving this woman’s experience.

This may be true but, since chopper frequently posts completely nonfactual alternative facts on the political side, I am highly suspect of the veracity of this thinly veiled political post (i.e. I don't believe it for a minute).


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Re: Mother with three kids crying in checkout line
Posted by: Harbourmaster
Date: November 06, 2022 02:02PM
I believe this story 100%

I do the grocery shopping for my family and buy pretty much the same items month after month. My bi-weekly bill at the same store is up approximately $100 for the same items as a year ago.


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Re: Mother with three kids crying in checkout line
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: November 06, 2022 02:15PM
Nothing like a weeping mother angle to prove your case, eh?
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Re: Mother with three kids crying in checkout line
Posted by: Speedy
Date: November 06, 2022 02:38PM
Meat is about the same but we live where transportation isn’t as big a factor (we have cattle on the farm located about three hundred yards away), milk is up, eggs are crazy expensive. We have a poultry packing plant one town over. It’s better than it was not long ago when the farmers were shooting their herds and burying them in a pit.

chopper could have suggested SNAP to his fictional woman. No reason to disbelieve that chopper has only $20 and I’m not sure how that connects to his fable.


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Re: Mother with three kids crying in checkout line
Posted by: mattkime
Date: November 06, 2022 02:57PM
I do wonder if people with different shopping habits are having significantly different experiences. I can tell you that buying meat and produce directly from farmers hasn't resulted in a significant price increase although I understand thats not available to everyone.

It would be nice to understand the price increases in more detail rather than "my grocery bill is up xxx%!!" The goal is to get the conversation outside of subjective experience.



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Re: Mother with three kids crying in checkout line
Posted by: Speedy
Date: November 06, 2022 02:59PM
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mattkime
I do wonder if people with different shopping habits are having significantly different experiences. I can tell you that buying meat and produce directly from farmers hasn't resulted in a significant price increase although I understand thats not available to everyone.

It would be nice to understand the price increases in more detail rather than "my grocery bill is up xxx%!!"

I am buying a lot fewer Alaskan King Crab Legs than I used to.


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Re: Mother with three kids crying in checkout line
Posted by: GGD
Date: November 06, 2022 03:12PM
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mattkime
It would be nice to understand the price increases in more detail rather than "my grocery bill is up xxx%!!" The goal is to get the conversation outside of subjective experience.

I once remember an old lady bragging that her car gets great gas mileage "because I only need to buy gas every two weeks", no other details.

I could probably price track Costco items over time, out of habit I save Costco receipts going back years, in case of price adjustments or returns. But the other thing that has happened over the past few years is that they've just stopped selling some regular items that I had been purchasing for years.
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Re: Mother with three kids crying in checkout line
Posted by: Harbourmaster
Date: November 06, 2022 03:26PM
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mattkime
The goal is to get the conversation outside of subjective experience.

That may be your goal.

My goal was to validate the OP's story, based on my own personal experience, no matter what there reason was for posting.


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Re: Mother with three kids crying in checkout line
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: November 06, 2022 03:50PM
I do the grocery shopping and the increase in food prices is more than 13%. Some items are possibly less than this amount, but the vast majority are higher. Eggs are up at least 50%, milk and dairy goods are about 15%,meat varies wildly, and some slaes are 0% over last year, and some varieties are 40%. This is only natural, as prices for transportation have increased, as well as the normal wage and benefits cost to employers have also increased.


This pretty much mirrors my experience.

I normally spend so little that it's only be recently that I've noticed a big hike in the cost of my provisions.

One of my favorite quick GoTo snacks is a beef bologna sandwich on white bread with various condiments.

My Safeway only carries the half-size, 8oz. package and hasn't had the larger 16oz half-size in months.

The turkey version (UGH!) and some salami can be had in the larger size, but no beef bologna.

And the half-size is 50% more than a few months ago.

Eggs are double, milk about 35% more.

I don't pay attention to price as much as I should, but I am paying ~$80 for what usually cost ~$50 not all that long ago.

I have no idea of the root cause of the increases I'm seeing, but I have no doubt my percentage may be higher because of living where I do.

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Re: Mother with three kids crying in checkout line
Posted by: gadje
Date: November 06, 2022 04:37PM
A guesstimate: our grocery bills went up 30%, and this is just a pure estimate, no hard facts.

I just came back from Costco, and water that was 2.99 is now 4.29. That's 43%.

I could be interesting to see if I could track an old receipt and look at the price of 1 box (3 cartons) of milk, 1 carton of eggs, 4 lb (3 pack) of ground beef, 1 pack of Kirkland coffee and so on just to see how much they went up in the past 3 years. I am afraid that 30% is an underestimate
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Re: Mother with three kids crying in checkout line
Posted by: C(-)ris
Date: November 06, 2022 09:21PM
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mattkime
I do wonder if people with different shopping habits are having significantly different experiences. I can tell you that buying meat and produce directly from farmers hasn't resulted in a significant price increase although I understand thats not available to everyone.

It would be nice to understand the price increases in more detail rather than "my grocery bill is up xxx%!!" The goal is to get the conversation outside of subjective experience.

Or different locations. I'm in the same boat as Matt, my costs aren't up for meat, eggs, cheese, or vegetables. All are trending about the same. Likely due to the fact that most of these are produced locally. I drink a decent amount of diet pop, and $3.00 used to be a good sale price, now it is $3.50 so that is up. Walmarts 2L went from $.78 to $.96 over the past 2 years. I think 10-13% is probably likely for the amount I'm paying more. Most of that is going to be due to the fact that transportation and labor costs are up.


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Re: Mother with three kids crying in checkout line
Posted by: chopper
Date: November 06, 2022 09:21PM
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davester


This may be true but, since chopper frequently posts completely nonfactual alternative facts on the political side, I am highly suspect of the veracity of this thinly veiled political post (i.e. I don't believe it for a minute).

What the hell are you talking about? My posts about Biden and his check engine light that illuminated on his forehead? Did you actually believe he had a check engine light on his forehead? I bet you did, didn't you?
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Re: Mother with three kids crying in checkout line
Posted by: RgrF
Date: November 06, 2022 10:54PM
And now Kroger (after a record year of profits) is attempting to take over Albertsons, a move that will increase their bottom line even further while reducing choice and competition.
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Re: Mother with three kids crying in checkout line
Posted by: Tiangou
Date: November 07, 2022 06:50AM
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freeradical
The price of latte's has not gone up...

Starbucks raised prices an average of 20% even as demand and profits soared.


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Re: Mother with three kids crying in checkout line
Posted by: C(-)ris
Date: November 07, 2022 08:53AM
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Tiangou
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freeradical
The price of latte's has not gone up...

Starbucks raised prices an average of 20% even as demand and profits soared.

Isn't that how it is supposed to work? If you can't find enough people to make the drinks you keep raising your prices until demand meets your supply(of workers or product).


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Re: Mother with three kids crying in checkout line
Posted by: Acer
Date: November 07, 2022 09:40AM
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C(-)ris
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Tiangou
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freeradical
The price of latte's has not gone up...

Starbucks raised prices an average of 20% even as demand and profits soared.

Isn't that how it is supposed to work? If you can't find enough people to make the drinks you keep raising your prices until demand meets your supply(of workers or product).

Not much comfort to that mother with three kids in the checkout line. "Ma'am, the system is working as intended."
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Re: Mother with three kids crying in checkout line
Posted by: Ted King
Date: November 07, 2022 11:03AM
"Bigger corporate profits account for *over half* of the higher prices people are paying."


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Re: Mother with three kids crying in checkout line
Posted by: pdq
Date: November 07, 2022 02:56PM
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mrbigstuff

I do the grocery shopping and the increase in food prices is more than 13%. Some items are possibly less than this amount, but the vast majority are higher.

Heard a lot about this during Obama too. No way these inflation numbers are real.

So…the government, involving thousands of non-political-appointee civil servants, is somehow making these numbers up? Do you really believe that?

RollingEyesSmiley5

(PS - before you ask, I shop for groceries too. In my experience, some prices have increased more than 13%, while others are not much changed.)
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Re: Mother with three kids crying in checkout line
Posted by: macphanatic
Date: November 08, 2022 08:24AM
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Ammo
Quote
davester
US grocery inflation is 13% 0ver the last year so this story is bogus. Inflation is a worldwide, not solely US, problem caused by the lingering supply/demand problems associated with Covid and the war in Ukraine. Also note that voting won't help because US politicians don't have the tools to deal with these worldwide issues, and because approximately 40% of inflation in the US is due to large corporations profiteering off of the supply/demand problem.

To say overall grocery inflation is 13% is one thing, but that doesn’t mean everyone is paying 13% more at the checkout line. It all depends on what’s in your cart. My wife is an extremely frugal shopper and never splurges - basic food, no beef and very little other meat. I accompanied her to the grocery store last week and was shocked at how prices have climbed for the things we normally buy.

I would be very wary of disbelieving this woman’s experience.

Exactly. I do the grocery shopping. The cost of a lot of items have risen significantly over the last few months. Way more than 13%. Some on the order of 30-50% or more.
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Re: Mother with three kids crying in checkout line
Posted by: chopper
Date: November 08, 2022 10:06AM
Hey check it out I found my thread.
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Re: Mother with three kids crying in checkout line
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: November 08, 2022 10:31AM
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chopper
Hey check it out I found my thread.

Well, it was kind of heavy-handed. She probably wouldn't have been crying if you hadn't muscled ahead of her saying, "Look I only have two items".
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Re: Mother with three kids crying in checkout line
Posted by: Bill in NC
Date: November 08, 2022 05:38PM
bunch of kids, probably more packaged foods than I eat...sure, those seem to have increased faster than basic stuff.
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Re: Mother with three kids crying in checkout line
Posted by: Acer
Date: November 11, 2022 10:11AM
For a little while, the prepared stuff was not rising as quickly as fresher stuff, probably drawing on stockpiles prepared when the price was low.

Pork has been at much better prices than chicken or beef here. Our local supermarket has been running quite reasonable specials on pork all through the inflation spike.
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