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Why do we hold international events in countries with poor human rights record?
Posted by: gadje
Date: November 18, 2022 09:28PM
China, Russia, Qatar, etc.
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Re: Why do we hold international events in countries with poor human rights record?
Posted by: Tiangou
Date: November 18, 2022 09:32PM
Money.

Lots and lots of money.

Qatar spent $220 billion on World Cup prep.



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Re: Why do we hold international events in countries with poor human rights record?
Posted by: vision63
Date: November 18, 2022 09:55PM
Seems to me the point of the international events is unite the world. There's no effort to unite if only the "good guys" can participate.
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Re: Why do we hold international events in countries with poor human rights record?
Posted by: davester
Date: November 18, 2022 10:25PM
Qatar bribed FIFA officials, which is the only reason that the world cup is to be played there.



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Re: Why do we hold international events in countries with poor human rights record?
Posted by: Carnos Jax
Date: November 18, 2022 10:34PM
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vision63
Seems to me the point of the international events is unite the world. There's no effort to unite if only the "good guys" can participate.

Good point.
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Re: Why do we hold international events in countries with poor human rights record?
Posted by: mattkime
Date: November 18, 2022 11:05PM
Money / sportswashing.



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Re: Why do we hold international events in countries with poor human rights record?
Posted by: Ca Bob
Date: November 19, 2022 02:29AM
FIFA is reputed to be about the most corrupt sports organization there is. It's been a few years, but the United States brought a large criminal prosecution back in 2013 which seems mostly to have been against Western Hemisphere officials:

[www.justice.gov]

But it's likely that a lot of palm greasing has been going on over the years.

The idea of moving the World Cup to the winter in order to accommodate the brutally hot climate of this country is one thing. The fact that it engages in the closest thing to slave labor is another. And now, no alcohol in the beer.

I suspect that the alcohol ban will be the precipitating factor in FIFA reform if there is going to be any at all. A little thing like the deaths of a few thousand imported workers in the construction projects doesn't seem to be enough to move the games somewhere else. We could hold them in Los Angeles given two weeks notice, with a little overflow to Mexico and Canada.
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Re: Why do we hold international events in countries with poor human rights record?
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: November 19, 2022 06:32AM
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Ca Bob
And now, no alcohol in the beer

Was there ever alcohol in Budweiser?
for that matter, was there ever beer in Budweiser?



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Re: Why do we hold international events in countries with poor human rights record?
Posted by: RgrF
Date: November 19, 2022 10:46AM
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davester
Qatar bribed FIFA officials, which is the only reason that the world cup is to be played there.

Not just officials, they were literally paying spectators to come to Qatar to show public support for the venue choice. They were until last week when they pulled the rug out under fan participants by reneging on a per diem $ allowance.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/19/2022 10:47AM by RgrF.
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Re: Why do we hold international events in countries with poor human rights record?
Posted by: gadje
Date: November 19, 2022 10:01PM
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Tiangou
Money.

Lots and lots of money.

Qatar spent $220 billion on World Cup prep.

How much will they gain from all this?
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Re: Why do we hold international events in countries with poor human rights record?
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: November 20, 2022 12:27PM
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gadje
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Tiangou
Money.

Lots and lots of money.

Qatar spent $220 billion on World Cup prep.

How much will they gain from all this?

Just for the prestige alone; they can afford it.

"The economy of Qatar is one of the richest in the world based on GDP per capita, ranking generally among the top ten richest countries on world rankings..."

"GDP per capita rank: 6th (PPP, 2021)"

"Population below poverty line: 0%"

"Unemployment: Steady 0.6% (2017 est.)"
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