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Twitter Poll: should they reinstate TRUMP's account?
Posted by: gadje
Date: November 19, 2022 01:01PM
Sorry I don't have the link. Wife just showed me the poll. At this time 52% YES vs 48% NO. I think Elon will let TRUMP back after this poll.

On the other hand, I hope twitter dies and this is not relevant anymore.
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Re: Twitter Poll: should they reinstate TRUMP's account?
Posted by: Ted King
Date: November 19, 2022 01:32PM
So for Musk freedom of expression on Twitter not a question of whether or not Trump posted terribly irresponsible and sometimes dangerous things on his Twitter account, but rather if he gets a majority of the votes on an on-line forum. facepalm



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Re: Twitter Poll: should they reinstate TRUMP's account?
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: November 19, 2022 01:32PM
No, they should not.

Twitter has a lot of value to some, likely a lot of people.

I think it should service for pet videos and public shaming of companies, especially those who steer consumers to their FB page instead of a website.






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Re: Twitter Poll: should they reinstate TRUMP's account?
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: November 19, 2022 01:49PM
Another effective "snarketing" move by Elon Musk. The poll is from his account, not an official twitter poll. He knows it will get retweeted everywhere.

Donald Trump won't come back to twitter if he is unblocked. He has his own thing now, that he controls. He won't put himself at the mercy of Elon or anybody.

Elon also hilariously posted "vox populi. Vox dei" with his poll.
Having no clue the context ...
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Re: Twitter Poll: should they reinstate TRUMP's account?
Posted by: vision63
Date: November 19, 2022 02:01PM
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Lemon Drop
Another effective "snarketing" move by Elon Musk. The poll is from his account, not an official twitter poll. He knows it will get retweeted everywhere.

Donald Trump won't come back to twitter if he is unblocked. He has his own thing now, that he controls. He won't put himself at the mercy of Elon or anybody.

Elon also hilariously posted "vox populi. Vox dei" with his poll.
Having no clue the context ...

He's gonna get his one day. It will be in a way that he never thought he could get gotten.
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Re: Twitter Poll: should they reinstate TRUMP's account?
Posted by: Blankity Blank
Date: November 19, 2022 02:02PM
A link to the poll.

The results as of the moment. +13 million ‘votes’ received.





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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/19/2022 02:05PM by Blankity Blank.
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Re: Twitter Poll: should they reinstate TRUMP's account?
Posted by: Bill in NC
Date: November 19, 2022 04:26PM
yes, for the entertainment value alone.

hopefully he'll claim he sent even more federal agents to intervene in state elections.
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Re: Twitter Poll: should they reinstate TRUMP's account?
Posted by: hal
Date: November 19, 2022 05:02PM
This is a 'poll' of Elon's followers on twitter, right? How is this instructive?
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Re: Twitter Poll: should they reinstate TRUMP's account?
Posted by: pdq
Date: November 19, 2022 05:10PM
Heh.

They’re projecting new nicknames for Lemon Usk on the exterior of the Twitter headquarters building in SF, including “worthless billionaire,” “bankruptcy baby,” “petulant pimple” and “mediocre manchild.”

The current favorite, though, appears to be “space Karen”.

ROTFL
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Re: Twitter Poll: should they reinstate TRUMP's account?
Posted by: RgrF
Date: November 19, 2022 06:29PM
Trump had this to say:

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Re: Twitter Poll: should they reinstate TRUMP's account?
Posted by: RgrF
Date: November 19, 2022 07:18PM
BREAKING NEWS
Elon Musk said on Twitter that he would reinstate Donald Trump to the platform. Mr. Trump had been banned after the Jan. 6 riot at the Capitol.
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Re: Twitter Poll: should they reinstate TRUMP's account?
Posted by: pdq
Date: November 19, 2022 07:21PM
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RgrF
Trump had this to say:


What a nice guy that Trump fellow is.

These two truly deserve each other!
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Re: Twitter Poll: should they reinstate TRUMP's account?
Posted by: S. Pupp
Date: November 19, 2022 07:39PM
There’s no justice in the world when it comes to the filthy rich.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/19/2022 07:39PM by S. Pupp.
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Re: Twitter Poll: should they reinstate TRUMP's account?
Posted by: Buzz
Date: November 19, 2022 07:41PM
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RgrF
BREAKING NEWS
Elon Musk said on Twitter that he would reinstate Donald Trump to the platform. Mr. Trump had been banned after the Jan. 6 riot at the Capitol.

Like we need more of a reason to avoid/ignore Twitter?
Phuhqu'em both.
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Re: Twitter Poll: should they reinstate TRUMP's account?
Posted by: pdq
Date: November 19, 2022 07:55PM
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RgrF
Elon Musk said on Twitter that he would reinstate Donald Trump to the platform.

Two things: Musk said he was doing it in response to his online twitter poll.

RollingEyesSmiley5

Also, it has been reported that Trump “reacted coolly” to the action.
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Re: Twitter Poll: should they reinstate TRUMP's account?
Posted by: DinerDave
Date: November 19, 2022 07:55PM
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Buzz
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RgrF
BREAKING NEWS
Elon Musk said on Twitter that he would reinstate Donald Trump to the platform. Mr. Trump had been banned after the Jan. 6 riot at the Capitol.

Like we need more of a reason to avoid/ignore Twitter?
Phuhqu'em both.
==

agree smiley

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Re: Twitter Poll: should they reinstate TRUMP's account?
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: November 19, 2022 08:39PM
One possible benefit: to the criminal prosecution of Trump.

His past tweets are all public again, and they are evidence.
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Re: Twitter Poll: should they reinstate TRUMP's account?
Posted by: Carnos Jax
Date: November 19, 2022 08:49PM
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Lemon Drop
One possible benefit: to the criminal prosecution of Trump.

His past tweets are all public again, and they are evidence.

I'm sure that information was preserved if needed anyway.
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Re: Twitter Poll: should they reinstate TRUMP's account?
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: November 19, 2022 08:57PM
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Carnos Jax
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Lemon Drop
One possible benefit: to the criminal prosecution of Trump.

His past tweets are all public again, and they are evidence.

I'm sure that information was preserved if needed anyway.

Not for the general public, which was my point. A lot of Americans never saw what Trump posted in the lead up to Jan. 6, and it's important that they do.
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Re: Twitter Poll: should they reinstate TRUMP's account?
Posted by: Carnos Jax
Date: November 19, 2022 09:07PM
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Lemon Drop
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Carnos Jax
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Lemon Drop
One possible benefit: to the criminal prosecution of Trump.

His past tweets are all public again, and they are evidence.

I'm sure that information was preserved if needed anyway.

Not for the general public, which was my point. A lot of Americans never saw what Trump posted in the lead up to Jan. 6, and it's important that they do.

That may be a good point, I was not trying to be argumentative. I assumed you were talking strictly about criminal prosecution as that was what you're post was suggesting.
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Re: Twitter Poll: should they reinstate TRUMP's account?
Posted by: hal
Date: November 19, 2022 09:20PM
stolen from twitter:

haha okay but in a purely hypothetical, non-TOS violating way wouldn’t it be a hilarious bit if we all stormed the twitter offices to protest this vote



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/19/2022 09:20PM by hal.
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Re: Twitter Poll: should they reinstate TRUMP's account?
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: November 19, 2022 09:41PM
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Carnos Jax
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Lemon Drop
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Carnos Jax
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Lemon Drop
One possible benefit: to the criminal prosecution of Trump.

His past tweets are all public again, and they are evidence.

I'm sure that information was preserved if needed anyway.

Not for the general public, which was my point. A lot of Americans never saw what Trump posted in the lead up to Jan. 6, and it's important that they do.

That may be a good point, I was not trying to be argumentative. I assumed you were talking strictly about criminal prosecution as that was what you're post was suggesting.

That is what I'm talking about. The American public needs to demand accountability for Jan. 6.
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Re: Twitter Poll: should they reinstate TRUMP's account?
Posted by: btfc
Date: November 19, 2022 09:56PM
‘ Musk restores Trump's Twitter account after online poll ‘


[news.yahoo.com]
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Re: Twitter Poll: should they reinstate TRUMP's account?
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: November 19, 2022 10:12PM
COMEDY
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btfc
‘ Musk restores Trump's Twitter account after online poll ‘


[news.yahoo.com]
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Re: Twitter Poll: should they reinstate TRUMP's account?
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: November 19, 2022 10:17PM
At least Devin Nunes will be out of a job now when 'Truth Social' tanks.
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Re: Twitter Poll: should they reinstate TRUMP's account?
Posted by: Acer
Date: November 19, 2022 11:09PM
Running a billion-dollar social media company like a high school yearbook.
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Re: Twitter Poll: should they reinstate TRUMP's account?
Posted by: gadje
Date: November 20, 2022 07:49AM
Crap.

Hopefully Trump forgot his Twitter password.
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Re: Twitter Poll: should they reinstate TRUMP's account?
Posted by: JoeH
Date: November 20, 2022 08:10AM
The whole poll thing sounded like Musk had already made up his mind, just wanted some rationalization to hide behind. As I understood it, it was posted off his twitter account such that only followers could vote. So persons inclined to go along with his views in the first place as compared to the general population. Even then only 52% were for it.
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Re: Twitter Poll: should they reinstate TRUMP's account?
Posted by: vision63
Date: November 20, 2022 11:32AM
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JoeH
The whole poll thing sounded like Musk had already made up his mind, just wanted some rationalization to hide behind. As I understood it, it was posted off his twitter account such that only followers could vote. So persons inclined to go along with his views in the first place as compared to the general population. Even then only 52% were for it.

Musk "only" bought Twitter to reinstate Trump. If Trump wasn't banned, he wouldn't have been interested. Now he's giving us a lesson.
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Re: Twitter Poll: should they reinstate TRUMP's account?
Posted by: btfc
Date: November 20, 2022 11:46AM
Young Elon:


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Re: Twitter Poll: should they reinstate TRUMP's account?
Posted by: gadje
Date: November 20, 2022 11:49AM
Trump snubs Twitter after Musk announces reactivation of ex-president's account

[www.reuters.com]
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Re: Twitter Poll: should they reinstate TRUMP's account?
Posted by: Carnos Jax
Date: November 20, 2022 12:03PM
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vision63
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JoeH
The whole poll thing sounded like Musk had already made up his mind, just wanted some rationalization to hide behind. As I understood it, it was posted off his twitter account such that only followers could vote. So persons inclined to go along with his views in the first place as compared to the general population. Even then only 52% were for it.

Musk "only" bought Twitter to reinstate Trump. If Trump wasn't banned, he wouldn't have been interested. Now he's giving us a lesson.

Wrong
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Re: Twitter Poll: should they reinstate TRUMP's account?
Posted by: Blankity Blank
Date: November 20, 2022 12:03PM
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JoeH
The whole poll thing sounded like Musk had already made up his mind, just wanted some rationalization to hide behind. As I understood it, it was posted off his twitter account such that only followers could vote. So persons inclined to go along with his views in the first place as compared to the general population. Even then only 52% were for it.

This is factually incorrect. I do not follow Musk, but my vote was accepted with no hint of obstruction.

Counted? I assume so. But it’s not something I would bet so much as a stale ham sandwich on.



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Re: Twitter Poll: should they reinstate TRUMP's account?
Posted by: vision63
Date: November 20, 2022 12:32PM
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Carnos Jax
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vision63
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JoeH
The whole poll thing sounded like Musk had already made up his mind, just wanted some rationalization to hide behind. As I understood it, it was posted off his twitter account such that only followers could vote. So persons inclined to go along with his views in the first place as compared to the general population. Even then only 52% were for it.

Musk "only" bought Twitter to reinstate Trump. If Trump wasn't banned, he wouldn't have been interested. Now he's giving us a lesson.

Wrong

Your instinct is telling you that.
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Re: Twitter Poll: should they reinstate TRUMP's account?
Posted by: hal
Date: November 20, 2022 12:55PM
Trump isn't gonna give away his wisdom for free. He wants $$$

But he also wants Truth to succeed (cause it PAYS). He will post to twitter if there is money to be made doing it.

also:

According to a filing from Truth to the SEC:

"President Trump is generally obligated to make any social media post on TruthSocial and may not make the same post on another social media site for 6 hours. Thereafter, he is free to post on any site to which he has access. Thus, TMTG has limited time to benefit from his posts and followers may not find it compelling to use TruthSocial to read his posts that quickly.

Shareholders are told that Trump will stay with Truth exclusively, if that changes, Truth would be open to a lawsuit.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/20/2022 01:05PM by hal.
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Re: Twitter Poll: should they reinstate TRUMP's account?
Posted by: RgrF
Date: November 20, 2022 01:20PM
Hal got there first.



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Re: Twitter Poll: should they reinstate TRUMP's account?
Posted by: Carnos Jax
Date: November 20, 2022 03:39PM
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vision63
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JoeH
The whole poll thing sounded like Musk had already made up his mind, just wanted some rationalization to hide behind. As I understood it, it was posted off his twitter account such that only followers could vote. So persons inclined to go along with his views in the first place as compared to the general population. Even then only 52% were for it.

Musk "only" bought Twitter to reinstate Trump. If Trump wasn't banned, he wouldn't have been interested. Now he's giving us a lesson.

Wrong

Your instinct is telling you that.

No, if you’ve been following Musk closely, it was the Babylon Bee banning (and a couple others) that triggered him. He was even worried that he himself could be banned for some of his tweets, though I think that was unfounded. He could care less about Trump as he detests him.
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Re: Twitter Poll: should they reinstate TRUMP's account?
Posted by: gadje
Date: November 20, 2022 03:46PM
I suggest Elon should buy Truth.
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Re: Twitter Poll: should they reinstate TRUMP's account?
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: November 20, 2022 04:40PM
Is he going to let "libs of tiktok" stay on Twitter? They promote hatred and violence towards trans and queer people and specifically target drag queen brunches. The Q Club in CO Springs was set to host such a brunch today.

We still don't know the motive in that shooting but I doubt he selected that target randomly.
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Re: Twitter Poll: should they reinstate TRUMP's account?
Posted by: Carnos Jax
Date: November 20, 2022 04:52PM
I don’t know about libs of tt, but he claims he’s going to (demoitize?) demote or otherwise make it impossible to see this sort of stuff (unless you go looking for it). Don’t know if that’ll work, but even if it does, then that’s effectively cancelling them….and isn’t that what he said he wouldn’t do? Which begs the question, why did he do all this to begin with (I know rhetorical question)? He knows he’s made a mistake, but was forced to go through with it anyway. Guess he realizes the best thing he can do is give the appearance he’s ‘fixed’ it and wash his hands of it.
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Re: Twitter Poll: should they reinstate TRUMP's account?
Posted by: Carnos Jax
Date: November 20, 2022 05:37PM
The only thing Musk can hope to do to improve Twitter, is algorithmically solve the issues of moderation and trolls/bots (as they relates to spam and hate speech) thereby reducing headcount which leads to profitability.
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Re: Twitter Poll: should they reinstate TRUMP's account?
Posted by: Carnos Jax
Date: November 20, 2022 05:45PM
Apparently Musk has hired the guy behind Comma AI to help him in this regard. Not sure what to think of it, as even that guy’s background isn’t social media.
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Re: Twitter Poll: should they reinstate TRUMP's account?
Posted by: Blankity Blank
Date: November 21, 2022 03:01PM
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Carnos Jax
I don’t know about libs of tt, but he claims he’s going to (demoitize?) demote or otherwise make it impossible to see this sort of stuff (unless you go looking for it). Don’t know if that’ll work, but even if it does, then that’s effectively cancelling them….and isn’t that what he said he wouldn’t do? Which begs the question, why did he do all this to begin with (I know rhetorical question)? He knows he’s made a mistake, but was forced to go through with it anyway. Guess he realizes the best thing he can do is give the appearance he’s ‘fixed’ it and wash his hands of it.

He’s getting pushback, of course, so we’ll see. I’m not sure how they’ll deal with tweets that are screencapped, handed off to other non-flagged accounts to be retweeted, etc. as a means to skirt being “deboosted”.

Here’s the tweet referred to, for those who haven’t seen it.





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