The report came after Attorney General Merrick Garland told the ATF to produce the first comprehensive study of criminal gun trafficking in more than 20 years.


First sweeping federal gun crime report in 20 years released
[apnews.com]

WASHINGTON (AP) — The most expansive federal report in over two decades on guns and crime shows a shrinking turnaround between the time a gun was purchased and when it was recovered from a crime scene, indicating firearms bought legally are more quickly being used in crimes around the country.

It also documents a spike in the use of conversion devices that make a semiautomatic gun fire like a machine gun, along with the growing seizure of so-called ghost guns, privately made firearms that are hard to trace.

The report comes as the nation grapples with a rise in violent crime, particularly from guns.

Much of the data from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives report hasn’t been widely available before, and its release is aimed at helping police and policy makers reduce gun violence, said Director Steve Dettelbach. “Information is power,” he said.

The report shows 54% of guns that police recovered in crime scenes in 2021 had been purchased within three years, a double-digit increase since 2019. The quicker turnaround can indicate illegal gun trafficking or a straw purchase — when someone who can legally purchase a gun buys one to sell it to someone who can’t legally possess guns. The increase was driven largely by guns bought less than a year before, it said.

The number of new guns overall in the U.S. grew significantly during that time as gun sales shattered records during the coronavirus pandemic.

Most guns used in crimes changed hands since their purchase, the report states. It also found what Deputy Attorney General Lisa Monaco called an epidemic of stolen guns: more than 1.07 million firearms were reported stolen between 2017 and 2021. Almost all of those, 96%, were from private individuals.

Meanwhile, the report also documents a more than five-fold increase in the number of devices that convert a legal semi-automatic weapon into an illegal fully automatic one. Between 2012 and 2016, the ATF retrieved 814 of those, but that number jumped to 5,414 during the five-year period documented in the report.

So a 3 year waiting period

Seems violent gun crime starts with non violent theft, to the tune of 1 million guns

Make it mandatory that guns require a fingerprint to fire and any disabling of this protection necessarily destroys the gun. We already have examples.

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Make it mandatory that guns require a fingerprint to fire and any disabling of this protection necessarily destroys the gun. We already have examples.

So my friends and I can't go to the range and shoot various guns?

Or someone breaks into my home and my wife needs a gun to protect herself and the handgun is finger printed to me.

Or the battery dies while a rarely used gun sits in a nightstand and one night it's needed... Sorry, dead battery, can't fire.

Being a responsible gun owner is changing your trigger lock's batteries when you change your smoke detector batteries.

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Make it mandatory that guns require a fingerprint to fire and any disabling of this protection necessarily destroys the gun. We already have examples.

So my friends and I can't go to the range and shoot various guns?

Or someone breaks into my home and my wife needs a gun to protect herself and the handgun is finger printed to me.

Or the battery dies while a rarely used gun sits in a nightstand and one night it's needed... Sorry, dead battery, can't fire.

Maybe follow the Massachusetts approach?

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So a 3 year waiting period

Seems violent gun crime starts with non violent “theft”, to the tune of 1 million guns

FTFY - you missed the quotes.

There are nearly 400k guns reported stolen every year; I’d bet dollars to donuts a significant number of those aren’t stolen, they’re sold for cash, usually to someone who can’t legally buy one for themselves.

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Make it mandatory that guns require a fingerprint to fire and any disabling of this protection necessarily destroys the gun. We already have examples.

So my friends and I can't go to the range and shoot various guns?

Or someone breaks into my home and my wife needs a gun to protect herself and the handgun is finger printed to me.

Or the battery dies while a rarely used gun sits in a nightstand and one night it's needed... Sorry, dead battery, can't fire.

Yep.

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Make it mandatory that guns require a fingerprint to fire and any disabling of this protection necessarily destroys the gun. We already have examples.

So my friends and I can't go to the range and shoot various guns?

Or someone breaks into my home and my wife needs a gun to protect herself and the handgun is finger printed to me.

Or the battery dies while a rarely used gun sits in a nightstand and one night it's needed... Sorry, dead battery, can't fire.

Yep.

If you were really concerned as you say for your family, you'd know to change the battery.

Wake up from a booze fueled night, you want to be locked and loaded.

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So a 3 year waiting period

Seems violent gun crime starts with non violent “theft”, to the tune of 1 million guns

FTFY - you missed the quotes.

There are nearly 400k guns reported stolen every year; I’d bet dollars to donuts a significant number of those aren’t stolen, they’re sold for cash, usually to someone who can’t legally buy one for themselves.

There should be a law making selling/giving/trading a gun to someone unable to legally have one a crime.
Oh, wait........

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Make it mandatory that guns require a fingerprint to fire and any disabling of this protection necessarily destroys the gun. We already have examples.

So my friends and I can't go to the range and shoot various guns?

Or someone breaks into my home and my wife needs a gun to protect herself and the handgun is finger printed to me.

Or the battery dies while a rarely used gun sits in a nightstand and one night it's needed... Sorry, dead battery, can't fire.

Yep.

Did you get permission to make this post? Perhaps a 3 day waiting period before commenting on social media

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Make it mandatory that guns require a fingerprint to fire and any disabling of this protection necessarily destroys the gun. We already have examples.

So my friends and I can't go to the range and shoot various guns?

Or someone breaks into my home and my wife needs a gun to protect herself and the handgun is finger printed to me.

Or the battery dies while a rarely used gun sits in a nightstand and one night it's needed... Sorry, dead battery, can't fire.

Maybe follow the Massachusetts approach?

False. Mass has the lowest rate of "accidental" gun deaths but gun related homicides per capita is higher than the national average.

Even according to FOX. [everystat.org]

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Make it mandatory that guns require a fingerprint to fire and any disabling of this protection necessarily destroys the gun. We already have examples.

So my friends and I can't go to the range and shoot various guns?

Or someone breaks into my home and my wife needs a gun to protect herself and the handgun is finger printed to me.

Or the battery dies while a rarely used gun sits in a nightstand and one night it's needed... Sorry, dead battery, can't fire.

Yep.

Did you get permission to make this post? Perhaps a 3 day waiting period before commenting on social media

False equivalence – describing two or more statements as virtually equal when they are not.

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Make it mandatory that guns require a fingerprint to fire and any disabling of this protection necessarily destroys the gun. We already have examples.

So my friends and I can't go to the range and shoot various guns?

Or someone breaks into my home and my wife needs a gun to protect herself and the handgun is finger printed to me.

Or the battery dies while a rarely used gun sits in a nightstand and one night it's needed... Sorry, dead battery, can't fire.

Maybe follow the Massachusetts approach?

False. Mass has the lowest rate of "accidental" gun deaths but gun related homicides per capita is higher than the national average.

Even according to FOX. [everystat.org]

Ummm No. You definitely can't make that argument based on the provided source. Nowhere on that does it have the rate per capita for gun related homicides in MA being higher than the national average. In fact MA is well below the national per capita average, and from this study the rate for firearm homicides ranked 43rd in the country - [www.criminalattorneycincinnati.com]

Yet another post from you showing your reading comprehension is nonexistent.

Since reading English seems difficult for you, according to Everystat, the far left anti gun publication, 41% of firearm deaths in Mass are homicides compared to 38% of them nationally. And per homicides per capita Mass is not the lowest. But facts don't matter to the anti Americans

Perhaps there should be a required 4 hr writing course before someone can publish something online, and get approval from two other people and interview a police officer.

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I did a little research. The above is almost entirely false.

[www.mass.gov]

What you need for Apply for a firearms license
To apply for a Resident Firearms License:

You must apply for a resident firearms license to carry or firearms identification card through the police department in the town where you reside.
You will need to submit:

•A complete resident firearms license application
•The required application fee
•A Massachusetts Basic Firearms Safety Course certificate
•A form of identification

You may need to submit:

•Proof of residence

Contact your local firearms licensing officer for specific information on the application process.

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You do have to take a safety course, but I don't see that the course must be 4 hours, no requirement for character references, no one-on-one with a police officer. Hawaii has the lowest gun death rate in the 50 states - MASS is second (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/firearm_mortality/firearm.htm)

good ideas for sure, but this is just another propaganda social media image

correction - the application DOES ask for two character references



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Perhaps there should be a required 4 hr writing course before someone can publish something online...

Ooh, I don’t think you would want that! Since the topic is guns, you’d be shooting yourself in the foot.

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Since reading English seems difficult for you, according to Everystat, the far left anti gun publication, 41% of firearm deaths in Mass are homicides compared to 38% of them nationally. And per homicides per capita Mass is not the lowest. But facts don't matter to the anti Americans

Perhaps there should be a required 4 hr writing course before someone can publish something online, and get approval from two other people and interview a police officer.

Your original claim was "Mass has the lowest rate of "accidental" gun deaths but gun related homicides per capita is higher than the national average."' What Everystat stated had nothing to do with the per capita rate, just that a higher percentage - not per capita - are homicides as compared to suicides. Then you turn around and fail to read and understand a site that posted the results of a study that was explicitly per capita.

I think it will take a much longer than 4 hours of studying a course in reading comprehension for you to be able to make a solid argument in a post.

Mass is not the lowest gun related homicide in the USA either.

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Mass is not the lowest gun related homicide in the USA either.

No, but all reports that have looked at that rate have it in the bottom 5 or 10. Even your source that you totally failed to understand had MA at 42nd for rates of gun related homicides and assaults. The source I provided had MA at 43rd.

So another lame attempt by you to make a point with material you obviously do not comprehend, and failing badly. The claim was for the lowest rate of all gun deaths, not just homicides. That includes suicides and accidental deaths such as from children getting ahold of a gun. MA is regularly at or near the lowest for that statistic.

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Mass is not the lowest gun related homicide in the USA either.

No, but all reports that have looked at that rate have it in the bottom 5 or 10. Even your source that you totally failed to understand had MA at 42nd for rates of gun related homicides and assaults. The source I provided had MA at 43rd.

So another lame attempt by you to make a point with material you obviously do not comprehend, and failing badly. The claim was for the lowest rate of all gun deaths, not just homicides. That includes suicides and accidental deaths such as from children getting ahold of a gun. MA is regularly at or near the lowest for that statistic.

Massachusetts also has a very low percentage of single mother families and very low minority population. Combined with a solid public school system and a high average household income.

If firearms make you afraid, perhaps move to Massachusetts, or Hawaii. Or even Montana that has a very low gun homicide rate, although in Montana over 60% of the population owns at least one gun

Wikipedia says that MA has the lowest gun death rate in the country.

Stupid, left-biased Wikipedia.

Also, regarding Mr645 saying the percentage of gun deaths in MA which are homicides is high, let’s do a little theoretical exercise, shall we?

In one theoretical state, (we’ll call it State A), say there are 2.8 gun homicides/100,000 people and 4.2 total murders/100,000 people). In another state (State M), there are 1.8 gun homicides/100,000 people and only 3.2 murders/100,000 people.

Clearly, state M has a worse gun violence and homicide problem than A.

If you don’t follow that logic, I’ll spell it out for you. This is true, since theoretical State M has a higher percentage of their murders that are accomplished by guns than theoretical State A. The fact that state A has a 55% higher gun murder rate than state M is simply an extreme left-wing, socialist distraction.

As you might have guessed, these are not theoretical states; “A” is Alabama, and “M” is Massachusetts. And the difference in gun murder rate is almost certainly worse than that shown; the chart I found at Wikipedia is from 2010, but it had all the numbers I stated above from the same year and same source. The gun death rate in Alabama from more recent data (2020) on the same Wikipedia page is 22.2/100,000 (vs 3.4/100,000 in MA - over 6 times more!).

More guns=more deaths. Real statistics don’t lie, but liars can always try to mislead with mismatched statistics.

Ok, so you found a state with higher rate of gun homicide.

We could look at Englewood Illinois, strict gun laws, low rate of "legal" gun ownership, yet a high murder rate.

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Ok, so you found a state with higher rate of gun homicide.

It’s easy to do. Per everystat (your link, BTW), there are 41 states with a higher rate of gun homicide than Massachusetts. Most of those with a lower rate are either sparsely populated states, or Blue states, or both.

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We could look at Englewood Illinois, strict gun laws, low rate of "legal" gun ownership, yet a high murder rate.

Now who’s cherry-picking?