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FactChecking Trump’s CNN Town Hall
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: May 11, 2023 07:43AM
From FactCheck.org, some highlights of the CNN Town Hall with *45.

FactChecking Trump’s CNN Town Hall

By Robert Farley, D'Angelo Gore, Lori Robertson, Eugene Kiely and Sean Christensen
Posted on May 11, 2023


Former President Donald Trump’s town hall event felt like a lightning round of false and misleading claims — most of which we’ve heard before. Among them:

He claimed the conservative group True the Vote found Democrats “stuffing ballot boxes” with “millions of votes” and it was caught “on government cameras.” It did not.

Trump falsely claimed that he “didn’t ask” Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger “to find” him more votes. In a Jan. 2, 2021, call, Trump told Raffensperger: “I just want to find 11,780 votes,” which was one more than Trump needed to win the state.

Then-Vice President Mike Pence didn’t have the legal right to send electoral votes back to the states, contrary to Trump’s claim that Pence “did something wrong” by not rejecting the votes in states he lost.

Trump falsely claimed that “we have open borders,” when each month border officials have apprehended and expelled tens of thousands of people who illegally enter the country.

He made an unsubstantiated claim that many of the immigrants coming illegally across the southern border are people released from prisons and mental institutions.

The former president wrongly claimed that the Presidential Records Act allowed him to negotiate the return of presidential materials to the National Archives and Records Administration.

President Joe Biden donated 1,850 boxes of records from his Senate years to the University of Delaware. There’s no evidence they contain classified information or that Biden refused to give them “back,” as Trump said.

Trump claimed that “we were energy independent” during his administration, but the U.S. never attained 100% self-sufficiency and still relied on energy imports under Trump.

He wrongly claimed that U.S. gasoline prices reached $9 under Biden. The highest weekly average price under Biden was about $5 in June 2022.

Trump claimed that under Roe v. Wade, “They could kill the baby … after the baby was born.” The court opinion allowed states to prohibit abortion after fetal viability, with exceptions for the mother’s life and health.



There so much more at [www.factcheck.org].






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Re: FactChecking Trump’s CNN Town Hall
Posted by: RgrF
Date: May 11, 2023 07:45AM
Headlines import impressions and impressions are often more important than actual information.

Info wont matter much to those who only scan headlines and sub-heads which are most of us. Unfortunately the wrong clickbait writers are the ones on strike.

A "scan" of AM heads and ledes would give anyone a totally false sense of the disaster that was CNN last night.
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We need Gort.
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: May 11, 2023 07:48AM
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Everybody counts or nobody counts.

When a good man is hurt,
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Re: FactChecking Trump’s CNN Town Hall
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: May 11, 2023 08:43AM
yes, Everything he said was a lie. Everything.
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Re: FactChecking Trump’s CNN Town Hall
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: May 11, 2023 10:49AM
Don’t forget he just made Ms. Carroll another $5M
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Re: FactChecking Trump’s CNN Town Hall
Posted by: Tiangou
Date: May 11, 2023 11:35AM
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cbelt3
Don’t forget he just made Ms. Carroll another $5M

She'll have to file a second defamation lawsuit to get it.

Perfectly do-able.



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Re: FactChecking Trump’s CNN Town Hall
Posted by: Lizabeth
Date: May 11, 2023 12:22PM
This WP oped was excellent! Would love to see someone nail FRUMP to the wall with any of these questions.

Gift Article: [wapo.st]
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Re: FactChecking Trump’s CNN Town Hall
Posted by: $tevie
Date: May 11, 2023 09:34PM
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Lizabeth
This WP oped was excellent! Would love to see someone nail FRUMP to the wall with any of these questions.

Gift Article: [wapo.st]

I love those questions. Too bad there is no reality where Trump would attempt to answer them.



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Re: FactChecking Trump’s CNN Town Hall
Posted by: vision63
Date: May 12, 2023 10:47AM
Trump @#$%& on CNN and discarded them like he does a prostitute.
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Re: FactChecking Trump’s CNN Town Hall
Posted by: Janit
Date: May 12, 2023 12:54PM
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Tiangou
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cbelt3
Don’t forget he just made Ms. Carroll another $5M

She'll have to file a second defamation lawsuit to get it.

Perfectly do-able.

Taking a step back for a reality check, I suspect that she would need to show additional financial damages resulting from this new round of defamation in order to succeed at a new lawsuit. The fact that he hasn't stopped defaming her may not be enough.

Unless this new round of defamation can be spun into something that's a criminal offense.
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Re: FactChecking Trump’s CNN Town Hall
Posted by: Tiangou
Date: May 12, 2023 01:37PM
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Janit
Quote
Tiangou
Quote
cbelt3
Don’t forget he just made Ms. Carroll another $5M

She'll have to file a second defamation lawsuit to get it.

Perfectly do-able.

Taking a step back for a reality check, I suspect that she would need to show additional financial damages resulting from this new round of defamation in order to succeed at a new lawsuit. The fact that he hasn't stopped defaming her may not be enough.

Unless this new round of defamation can be spun into something that's a criminal offense.

Since he's on notice that his words are defamatory, she has a case for defamation per se with punitive damages (awarded for reckless and/or malicious actions). He may also be in contempt of court.



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Re: FactChecking Trump’s CNN Town Hall
Posted by: $tevie
Date: May 12, 2023 01:49PM
What would have been great is if anyone who attempted fact checking post-debate had simply written: He lied throughout the allotted time. There's no reason to fact check a sociopath and pathological liar. His base doesn't care and the rest of us know that if his lips are moving, he's lying.







Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/12/2023 01:49PM by $tevie.
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Re: FactChecking Trump’s CNN Town Hall
Posted by: Blankity Blank
Date: May 13, 2023 07:44PM
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Lizabeth
This WP oped was excellent! Would love to see someone nail FRUMP to the wall with any of these questions.

Gift Article: [wapo.st]

Those are only tough questions if you aren’t a sociopath with a constituency made up of cult like followers.

Trump would swat those questions out of the air like paper mache shuttlecocks. Most of them he would simply say the ‘truth’ is the exact opposite and anyone saying otherwise is out to get him or a dupe. And his followers would just cheer and whistle.



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