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Good guys and gals with guns
Posted by: Mr645
Date: September 24, 2023 05:05PM
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* Feel free to ignore facts that don't align with your preconceived ideas.



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Re: Good guys and gals with guns
Posted by: Tiangou
Date: September 24, 2023 05:13PM




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Re: Good guys and gals with guns
Posted by: Speedy
Date: September 24, 2023 05:20PM
Wow, those are some numbers! Even though none of his stats approached 200 cases a year of a good guy stopping a bad guy, this certainly offsets the 30,000 who die from a gun each year.



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Re: Good guys and gals with guns
Posted by: sekker
Date: September 24, 2023 06:14PM
One fish, two fish, red fish, blue fish.
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Re: Good guys and gals with guns
Posted by: Smote
Date: September 24, 2023 06:14PM
"Crime happens a lot. One recent estimate holds that guns are needed defensively approximately 1,670,000 times a year.33 Another report, originally commissioned and long cited by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimated that there are between 500,000 and 3,000,000 defensive gun uses in the United States every year.34 Woe to the victim who runs out of ammunition before armed attackers do. The police will mark the ground with chalk, count the number of shell casings, and file the report."

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"The Court notes that the CDC has changed its reporting to delete
reference to this study and the Court will not comment on how or why that happened as the CDC website does not reflect why it was deleted."

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"Defending your own life when in immediate danger to me is a basic right of each person. " Lemon Drop 11/17/2023 03:10 pm

Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008) Private citizens have the right under the Second Amendment to possess an ordinary type of weapon and use it for lawful, historically established situations such as self-defense in a home, even when there is no relationship to a local militia.

"The conclusion is thus inescapable that the history, concept, and wording of the second amendment to the Constitution of the United States, as well as its interpretation by every major commentator and court in the first half-century after its ratification, indicates that what is protected is an individual right of a private citizen to own and carry firearms in a peaceful manner." Right to Keep and Bear Arms: Report of the Subcommittee on the Constitution of the Committee on the Judiciary, United States Senate, Ninety-seventh Congress, Second Session. U.S. Government Printing Office. 1982. Digitized September 30, 2008.

From the NYSRPA v Bruen "Today, we decline to adopt that two-part approach. . . . Despite the popularity of this two-step approach, it is one step too many. Step one of the predominant framework is broadly consistent with Heller, which demands a test rooted in the Second Amendment's text, as informed by history."
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Re: Good guys and gals with guns
Posted by: sekker
Date: September 24, 2023 06:19PM
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Smote
"Crime happens a lot. One recent estimate holds that guns are needed defensively approximately 1,670,000 times a year.33 Another report, originally commissioned and long cited by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimated that there are between 500,000 and 3,000,000 defensive gun uses in the United States every year.34 Woe to the victim who runs out of ammunition before armed attackers do. The police will mark the ground with chalk, count the number of shell casings, and file the report."

[michellawyers.com]

"The Court notes that the CDC has changed its reporting to delete
reference to this study and the Court will not comment on how or why that happened as the CDC website does not reflect why it was deleted."

[web.archive.org]

We would know a lot more about the true role of guns in our society if the funding for gun science had not been blocked.

'No, I do not like Green Eggs and Ham.'
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Re: Good guys and gals with guns
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: September 24, 2023 09:35PM
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Re: Good guys and gals with guns
Posted by: Mr645
Date: September 25, 2023 05:50AM
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Speedy
Wow, those are some numbers! Even though none of his stats approached 200 cases a year of a good guy stopping a bad guy, this certainly offsets the 30,000 who die from a gun each year.

Is it a gun that kills people? Sort of like how random cars run people over?

maybe we should concentrate on why people kill others or themselves.
instead our leadership has chosen to use the AR-15 modern rifle, a tool used about 300 times to kill someone, as a battle cry to get re-elected. Vote over solutions is why nothing changes. Maybe their gal isn't to fix a problem



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