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Scalise drops out
Posted by: gadje
Date: October 12, 2023 07:28PM
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/12/2023 07:29PM by gadje.
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Re: Scalise drops out
Posted by: $tevie
Date: October 12, 2023 07:30PM
Oh, here we go again. FFS, just vote in Hakeem Jeffries and get your lazy, recess-loving asses to work.



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Re: Scalise drops out
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: October 12, 2023 07:32PM
.....another......loser.....!!!



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Re: Scalise drops out
Posted by: Speedy
Date: October 12, 2023 07:33PM
Jordan is our man? barf smiley



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Re: Scalise drops out
Posted by: $tevie
Date: October 12, 2023 07:37PM
Jordan can't get the votes, either. The GOP is so screwed right now.



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Re: Scalise drops out
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: October 12, 2023 07:38PM
Hakeem Jeffries did a good job a keeping a straight face when queried.
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Re: Scalise drops out
Posted by: gadje
Date: October 12, 2023 07:39PM
I also saw in the news that McCarthy does not completely rules out another run.
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Re: Scalise drops out
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: October 12, 2023 08:12PM
Jordan also withdrew, so now they are truly screwed. The only way this is going to happen is for the moderates to strike a deal across the aisle, and then expel Gaetz, MTG, and Santos.

Will that happen? doubtful



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Re: Scalise drops out
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: October 12, 2023 08:25PM
is anyone else mildly surprised that the republicans are following the "rules" to elect a speaker?


maybe get a constitutional convention together over the weekend. have some beers.



Hurts like a bastid...
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Re: Scalise drops out
Posted by: davester
Date: October 12, 2023 09:26PM
In an evenly divided government, the only logical way to select someone (i.e. house speaker) to oversee the operation of the divided government is to find someone that can be supported by a majority of both parties (i.e. a moderate who appeals to the moderates in both parties). The Republicans are in denial of this basic fact and in their attempt to do an end run around the opposing party that represents half the populace are picking the most extreme candidates possible in order to appease the nutcases. This strategy is beyond ridiculous and is certain to fail again...and again...and again. Morons!



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Re: Scalise drops out
Posted by: Speedy
Date: October 12, 2023 10:03PM
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davester
find someone that can be supported by a majority of both parties (i.e. a moderate who appeals to the moderates in both parties).

What you describe still won’t find enough votes to elect a speaker. You’ll get 175 Democratic moderates. There aren’t 42 Republican moderates.



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Re: Scalise drops out
Posted by: jonny
Date: October 12, 2023 11:00PM
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Speedy
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davester
find someone that can be supported by a majority of both parties (i.e. a moderate who appeals to the moderates in both parties).

What you describe still won’t find enough votes to elect a speaker. You’ll get 175 Democratic moderates. There aren’t 42 Republican moderates.

If you choose the right candidate, you'll get all the Dems. They aren't idiots.
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Re: Scalise drops out
Posted by: gadje
Date: October 12, 2023 11:03PM
Not all of them are idiots. FTFY.
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Re: Scalise drops out
Posted by: Lizabeth
Date: October 12, 2023 11:32PM
Time to call your congressional rep if Republican and tell them to get their act together. That you didn’t vote for them to play these type of games.

And personally I would add if they kept this up I would actively work against them in their next election.
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Re: Scalise drops out
Posted by: jonny
Date: October 12, 2023 11:37PM
[www.rawstory.com]

Columnist Bill Kristol, who founded The Bulwark, posted on social media, "for what it's worth, this afternoon I've gotten a few calls and texts along the lines of, 'I hear so-and-so is open to working with Dems on the speakership, who do you think would be good to talk with him, etc.' Is it possible frustration among sane Republicans is hitting a tipping point...?"
Republican lawmakers have flagged something similar, as Raw Story pointed out earlier on Thursday.
Rep. David Joyce (R-OH), who is a member of the "Problem Solver's Caucus," told Punchbowl News' Jake Sherman that he's speaking with Republicans and Democrats about a possible joint government with interim Speaker Patrick McHenry (R-NC)
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Re: Scalise drops out
Posted by: jonny
Date: October 12, 2023 11:41PM
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gadje
Not all of them are idiots. FTFY.
With Republican representatives setting the bar… the Democrats all look like Einsteins to me.
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Re: Scalise drops out
Posted by: gadje
Date: October 12, 2023 11:50PM
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jonny
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gadje
Not all of them are idiots. FTFY.
With Republican representatives setting the bar… the Democrats all look like Einsteins to me.

True. I stand corrected.
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Re: Scalise drops out
Posted by: gabester
Date: October 13, 2023 07:56AM
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Lizabeth
Time to call your congressional rep if Republican and tell them to get their act together. That you didn’t vote for them to play these type of games.

Except, a lot of MAGA/GQP voters DID elect their representatives to play these types of games. Stick it to the libs, shut down the government and watch those rich coastal people panic as their investments diminish. They're operating off an ideology that government does nothing good when it does anything at all, better to have no functioning government so they can pray to their savior for salvation in the afterlife than to hope the government can act to make a better world.



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Re: Scalise drops out
Posted by: Fritz
Date: October 13, 2023 08:13AM
Surprise!
Party!
Yeah, we just thought we'd drop in!
Where's your icebox?
hey, where's the punch?
Ew, house-a-tosis!

Who's to blame when parties really get out of hand?
Who's to blame when they get poorly planned?

Hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoooo-ooooooooo

Crashers get bombed, slobs make a mess
You know sometimes they'll even ruin your wife's dress
Crashers getttin' bombed
Who's to blame?
Can you pull it back in line?
Can you salvage it in time?
What can you do to save a party?
Parcheesi, charades?
A spur-of-the-moment scavenger hunt
Or Queen of the Nile? (aah, who turned out the lights?)

Bombed, crashers gettin' bombed
Crashers gettin' bombed, bombed, bombed, bombed, now, who's to blame?

Who's to blame when situations degenerate?
Disgusting things you'd never anticipate?

Hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoooo-ooooooooo

People get sick, they play the wrong games
You know, it could ruin your name
Crashers gettin' bombed
Who's to blame?
Can you pull it back in line?
Can you salvage it in time?

Whooooooa!

It shouldn't be difficult!
Try not to condemn!
Okay, who ordered pizza?
I'll be tactful when making the rounds
Be tactful when making the rounds and maybe
You can save a party gone out of bounds (party gone out of bounds)
Party gone out of bounds (gone out of bounds)
Party gone out of bounds
Gone out of bounds



!#$@@$#!

What if the hokey pokey really is what it’s all about?

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Re: Scalise drops out
Posted by: decay
Date: October 13, 2023 09:09AM
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gabester
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Lizabeth
Time to call your congressional rep if Republican and tell them to get their act together. That you didn’t vote for them to play these type of games.

Except, a lot of MAGA/GQP voters DID elect their representatives to play these types of games. Stick it to the libs, shut down the government and watch those rich coastal people panic as their investments diminish. They're operating off an ideology that government does nothing good when it does anything at all, better to have no functioning government so they can pray to their savior for salvation in the afterlife than to hope the government can act to make a better world.

Yeah, the government sucks so let's make it worse.

Crash and burn! Suck it, Libs!



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Re: Scalise drops out
Posted by: pdq
Date: October 13, 2023 10:04AM
And Jordan (yes, Gym Jordan) jumps back in.

What is this, Groundhog Day?

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Re: Scalise drops out
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: October 13, 2023 11:33AM
It's going to hurt them for the upcoming Nov. 7 election. It being an off year for national elections might save them from too much damage.



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