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Henry Kissinger Is Dead at 100
Posted by: Speedy
Date: November 29, 2023 08:00PM
[www.nytimes.com]



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Re: Henry Kissinger Is Dead at 100
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: November 29, 2023 08:47PM
I'm not sure if any US politician can more clearly be identified with the Cold War than Kissinger.



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Re: Henry Kissinger Is Dead at 100
Posted by: Acer
Date: November 29, 2023 10:04PM
TIL Kissinger was still alive yesterday.
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Re: Henry Kissinger Is Dead at 100
Posted by: vision63
Date: November 29, 2023 10:35PM
I'm glad it didn't happen until after Roselynn's funeral. RIP Mr Kissinger.
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Re: Henry Kissinger Is Dead at 100
Posted by: JoeH
Date: November 29, 2023 11:48PM
May he R ..., no wishes for peace in his case.
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Re: Henry Kissinger Is Dead at 100
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: November 29, 2023 11:56PM
[en.m.wikipedia.org]



Hurts like a bastid...
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Re: Henry Kissinger Is Dead at 100
Posted by: vision63
Date: November 30, 2023 01:03AM
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JoeH
May he R ..., no wishes for peace in his case.

Don't be mad at him. Be mad at what made him possible. Nixon was totally avoidable. Then use that information as a resource moving forward. Whenever we end up with "ratchet," we must remember our lessons.
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Re: Henry Kissinger Is Dead at 100
Posted by: anonymouse1
Date: November 30, 2023 01:35AM
I have nothing nice to say.
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Re: Henry Kissinger Is Dead at 100
Posted by: Tiangou
Date: November 30, 2023 01:43AM
Henry Kissinger
How I'm missing yer
You're the doctor of my dreams

With your crinkly hair and your glassy stare
And your machiavellian schemes
I know they say that you are very vain
And short and fat and pushy
But at least you're not insane

Henry Kissinger
How I'm missing yer
And wishing you were here

Henry Kissinger
How I'm missing yer
You're so chubby and so neat

With your funny clothes and your squishy nose
You're like a German parakeet
All right so people say that you don't care
But you've got nicer legs than Hitler
And bigger tits than Cher

Henry Kissinger
How I'm missing yer
And wishing you were here


-Eric Idle







Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/30/2023 03:13AM by Tiangou.
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Re: Henry Kissinger Is Dead at 100
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: November 30, 2023 07:32AM
Celebrity couple…

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Re: Henry Kissinger Is Dead at 100
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: November 30, 2023 07:51AM
A long and eventful life, and a very Machiavellian person whose footprint on the world was extensive, and often bloody.
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Re: Henry Kissinger Is Dead at 100
Posted by: Ted King
Date: November 30, 2023 08:58AM
I can't wish him peace with honor.



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Re: Henry Kissinger Is Dead at 100
Posted by: JoeH
Date: November 30, 2023 08:59AM
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vision63
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JoeH
May he R ..., no wishes for peace in his case.

Don't be mad at him. Be mad at what made him possible. Nixon was totally avoidable. Then use that information as a resource moving forward. Whenever we end up with "ratchet," we must remember our lessons.

Nixon was only part of it, by Fall of 1968 it was already an election for him to lose after the death of RFK. Humphrey was a good man and would have made a fine president, but he was too linked to LBJ at that point to win the election after Wallace took away the former Southern Democrats.

As for Kissinger, he was very active in creating what made him possible. He was not just brought in.
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Re: Henry Kissinger Is Dead at 100
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: November 30, 2023 10:08AM
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Re: Henry Kissinger Is Dead at 100
Posted by: vision63
Date: November 30, 2023 11:32AM
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JoeH
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vision63
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JoeH
May he R ..., no wishes for peace in his case.

Don't be mad at him. Be mad at what made him possible. Nixon was totally avoidable. Then use that information as a resource moving forward. Whenever we end up with "ratchet," we must remember our lessons.

Nixon was only part of it, by Fall of 1968 it was already an election for him to lose after the death of RFK. Humphrey was a good man and would have made a fine president, but he was too linked to LBJ at that point to win the election after Wallace took away the former Southern Democrats.

As for Kissinger, he was very active in creating what made him possible. He was not just brought in.

Humphrey would have won were it not for the riots at the Democratic Convention. That made Democrats look bad. That was unnecessary. There's been an element on the far left that's been @#$%& up elections since at least that time. The lesson is never learned and continues to this very day. We should have never been in a position to have broken so hopelessly in two as a nation. The never ending opening of Pandora's Box after Pandora's Box.

Now this muhfucka is dead. No need to villify him at this stage.
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Re: Henry Kissinger Is Dead at 100
Posted by: $tevie
Date: November 30, 2023 12:16PM
They say you shouldn't say nothin' about the dead unless it's good. He's dead. Good!
~Moms Mabley



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Re: Henry Kissinger Is Dead at 100
Posted by: hal
Date: November 30, 2023 12:34PM
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$tevie
They say you shouldn't say nothin' about the dead unless it's good. He's dead. Good!
~Moms Mabley

whoever edits googlenews agrees:

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Re: Henry Kissinger Is Dead at 100
Posted by: JoeH
Date: November 30, 2023 12:43PM
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vision63
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JoeH
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vision63
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JoeH
May he R ..., no wishes for peace in his case.

Don't be mad at him. Be mad at what made him possible. Nixon was totally avoidable. Then use that information as a resource moving forward. Whenever we end up with "ratchet," we must remember our lessons.

Nixon was only part of it, by Fall of 1968 it was already an election for him to lose after the death of RFK. Humphrey was a good man and would have made a fine president, but he was too linked to LBJ at that point to win the election after Wallace took away the former Southern Democrats.

As for Kissinger, he was very active in creating what made him possible. He was not just brought in.

Humphrey would have won were it not for the riots at the Democratic Convention. That made Democrats look bad. That was unnecessary. There's been an element on the far left that's been @#$%& up elections since at least that time. The lesson is never learned and continues to this very day. We should have never been in a position to have broken so hopelessly in two as a nation. The never ending opening of Pandora's Box after Pandora's Box.

Now this muhfucka is dead. No need to villify him at this stage.

The protests may not have helped, but Humphrey already had a lot problems before that. He had not run in any primaries, so there were accusations of a "fix" as he got the nomination on the first ballot. At least George McGovern at least endorsed him after the nomination, but McCarthy didn't. Humphrey already was polling behind Nixon, that effected fund raising. Wallace tore off the white Southern voters, and Humphrey did not do real well outside the South either.

You have a rather simplistic, the party is first approach. The reality is not anywhere near that simple.

Kissinger is dead, but that doesn't change what he was, what he did, or how he should be described.
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Re: Henry Kissinger Is Dead at 100
Posted by: vision63
Date: November 30, 2023 12:54PM
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JoeH
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vision63
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JoeH
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vision63
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JoeH
May he R ..., no wishes for peace in his case.

Don't be mad at him. Be mad at what made him possible. Nixon was totally avoidable. Then use that information as a resource moving forward. Whenever we end up with "ratchet," we must remember our lessons.

Nixon was only part of it, by Fall of 1968 it was already an election for him to lose after the death of RFK. Humphrey was a good man and would have made a fine president, but he was too linked to LBJ at that point to win the election after Wallace took away the former Southern Democrats.

As for Kissinger, he was very active in creating what made him possible. He was not just brought in.

Humphrey would have won were it not for the riots at the Democratic Convention. That made Democrats look bad. That was unnecessary. There's been an element on the far left that's been @#$%& up elections since at least that time. The lesson is never learned and continues to this very day. We should have never been in a position to have broken so hopelessly in two as a nation. The never ending opening of Pandora's Box after Pandora's Box.

Now this muhfucka is dead. No need to villify him at this stage.

The protests may not have helped, but Humphrey already had a lot problems before that. He had not run in any primaries, so there were accusations of a "fix" as he got the nomination on the first ballot. At least George McGovern at least endorsed him after the nomination, but McCarthy didn't. Humphrey already was polling behind Nixon, that effected fund raising. Wallace tore off the white Southern voters, and Humphrey did not do real well outside the South either.

You have a rather simplistic, the party is first approach. The reality is not anywhere near that simple.

Kissinger is dead, but that doesn't change what he was, what he did, or how he should be described.

Because it's more simplistic than you think. McCarthy that October announced that he would vote for Humphrey. The party was 100% in it's right to choose whoever it wanted to be their nominee. The same BS got repeated in 2016. Tell me it didn't?

Democrats cannot win, without full support. That's just what it is. We can make it infinitely complicated if we want to. Just vote. How difficult is that? You have political capital inside of you. How you spend it determines outcomes.

I didn't make up this country. I just know how to achieve the best possible outcomes at the optimal times.

Everything is complicated. But it's not complicated to your enemy.





Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 11/30/2023 12:58PM by vision63.
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Re: Henry Kissinger Is Dead at 100
Posted by: bfd
Date: November 30, 2023 03:23PM
For someone who won the Nobel Peace Prize, he certainly wasn't a peaceable personality. In fact, the secret bombing of Thailand, Laos, and Cambodia - and the subsequent denials - probably kept the fighting in SE Asia going on far longer than it ever needed to… and in the end, what does the US have to show for it? A beaten up generation and cheap clothing and running shoe factories … Bon Voyage Henry.
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