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Prince Charles, Climate Change=WWII
Posted by: spearmint
Date: May 01, 2007 04:24PM
Being royalty I guess does not mean having brains.
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Re: Prince Charles, Climate Change=WWII
Posted by: RgrF
Date: May 01, 2007 11:05PM
Bees, a vital link in the agriculture chain, are disappearing by the hundreds of millions and no one knows why. Coral, a necessary and important part of the ocean food chain, is degraded to the point it could entirely disappear.

Animals are migrating north in previously unheard of numbers and a guy living in a basement in California questions the credentials of an environmental crusader, what's that about?



"Who's more foolish - the fool or the fool that follows him?" - Obi Wan Kenobi
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Re: Prince Charles, Climate Change=WWII
Posted by: MacMagus
Date: May 01, 2007 11:25PM
His metaphors worked quite well.

Perhaps you simply didn't understand them.
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Re: Prince Charles, Climate Change=WWII
Posted by: spearmint
Date: May 01, 2007 11:31PM
Gees equating the brutal slaughter of hundred of thousand of soldiers with losing coral reefs makes perfect sense. Yup the Prince has it right. He also can find the bullets that killed those reefs and bees.




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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/01/2007 11:36PM by spearmint.
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Re: Prince Charles, Climate Change=WWII
Posted by: MacMagus
Date: May 01, 2007 11:50PM
> Gees equating the brutal slaughter of hundred of thousand of soldiers...

Um. No.

He equated a record of concerted efforts accomplishing monumental tasks with the increasing efforts necessary to adapt to and alter the course of global climate change.

I admit, it's a little optimistic, but the metaphor is sound.
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Re: Prince Charles, Climate Change=WWII
Posted by: RgrF
Date: May 02, 2007 02:19AM
Good luck with this one Mag.



"Who's more foolish - the fool or the fool that follows him?" - Obi Wan Kenobi
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Re: Prince Charles, Climate Change=WWII
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: May 02, 2007 07:13AM
I think someone is taking things a bit too literally.

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Good luck with this one Mag.

lol!
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Re: Prince Charles, Climate Change=WWII
Posted by: mick e
Date: May 02, 2007 08:07AM
mick e is trying to figure out why 'minty isn't featuring a Cubs logo in his sig.

It *is* baseball season, isn't it?

How about "Lou Must Go"?




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Re: Prince Charles, Climate Change=WWII
Posted by: spearmint
Date: May 02, 2007 09:56AM
All these apologies sck. He is just stupid and dishonoring the best ever on all sides. They were people fighting for their country. This is sick.




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Re: Prince Charles, Climate Change=WWII
Posted by: Silencio
Date: May 02, 2007 01:22PM
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mick e
It *is* baseball season, isn't it?

The Cubs suck, as usual. Guess he needs a diversion.

That's the great thing about living in the basement: it keeps a nice, steady, cool temperature down there -- completely disconnected from what's going on outside...
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Re: Prince Charles, Climate Change=WWII
Posted by: Effin Haole
Date: May 02, 2007 01:55PM
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spearmint
All these apologies sck. He is just stupid and dishonoring the best ever on all sides. They were people fighting for their country. This is sick.

More importantly they were fighting for their/our survival and with a united effort we can possibly bring about our own survival now in the face of another monumental adversary (pollution, warming, etc.), that being the (albeit loose) connection being made.



Strength without compassion is brutality. Compassion without strength is weakness.

We must train our minds to desire what the situation demands.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/02/2007 01:55PM by Effin Haole.
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Re: Prince Charles, Climate Change=WWII
Posted by: davester
Date: May 02, 2007 02:43PM
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spearmint
He is just stupid and dishonoring the best ever on all sides. This is sick.

Nope, that's you.



"In science it often happens that scientists say, 'You know that's a really good argument; my position is mistaken,' and then they would actually change their minds and you never hear that old view from them again. They really do it. It doesn't happen as often as it should, because scientists are human and change is sometimes painful. But it happens every day. I cannot recall the last time something like that happened in politics or religion." (1987) -- Carl Sagan
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Re: Prince Charles, Climate Change=WWII
Posted by: voodoopenguin
Date: May 02, 2007 03:04PM
Are we using words with too many syllables or something? Did mint actually read the article or just guess at it? Charles was comparing the effort needed to rise to a huge challenge not what the challenge itself was. Seemed plain enough to me and to others who have posted here and that doesn't mean to say that they all agree with Charles either.
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Re: Prince Charles, Climate Change=WWII
Posted by: spearmint
Date: May 02, 2007 03:20PM
I do not need to study his articles where he tries to get off the hook. He is a moron. The very headline concept is sickening. People sacrificing at the Battle of the Bulge being compared to Carbon Dioxide? Heresy and disgrace. Bring it on, There is no justification for this nonsense.
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Re: Prince Charles, Climate Change=WWII
Posted by: SLM
Date: May 02, 2007 04:14PM
Seems simple to me, a parable. The struggle to save the environment akin to the struggle to save Europe from Nazi Germany.

Granted he's a bit of a loon but how you get People sacrificing at the Battle of the Bulge being compared to Carbon Dioxide from "We can do it, just think what they did in the last war. Things that seemed impossible were achieved almost overnight," is beyond me.
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Re: Prince Charles, Climate Change=WWII
Posted by: billb
Date: May 02, 2007 04:35PM
It must be tough.
Refusing to be seen eating caviar flown in by commercial jet for freshness.

One aspect of this parable I don't like, either.
There is no wholesale slaughter nor massive life sacrifices to stemming climate change.

That this will involve the whole world can not be argued.
Comparison to WWII is a rather poor choice of analogies. Though not totally without some merit.
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Re: Prince Charles, Climate Change=WWII
Posted by: Seacrest
Date: May 02, 2007 05:01PM
Methinks 'Minty was pre-disposed to be offended by whatever analogy the Prince chose, whether it had been WWII or building a Millennium Falcon with Legos.
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Re: Prince Charles, Climate Change=WWII
Posted by: Effin Haole
Date: May 02, 2007 05:12PM
Poor Minty, the Lego™ Millennium Falcon is unavailable in the US.

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Strength without compassion is brutality. Compassion without strength is weakness.

We must train our minds to desire what the situation demands.
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Re: Prince Charles, Climate Change=WWII
Posted by: Silencio
Date: May 02, 2007 05:44PM
Forget that wimpy little Falcon!

Wonder how long it takes to put 5,000+ pieces together?

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Re: Prince Charles, Climate Change=WWII
Posted by: MacMagus
Date: May 02, 2007 06:07PM
> There is no wholesale slaughter nor massive life sacrifices to stemming climate change.

Huh?!









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Re: Prince Charles, Climate Change=WWII
Posted by: MacMagus
Date: May 02, 2007 06:09PM
You've got it twisted 'round.

The massive life sacrifices are what come from NOT stemming climate change.

It simply requires a massive EFFORT to prevent that.
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Re: Prince Charles, Climate Change=WWII
Posted by: spearmint
Date: May 02, 2007 07:18PM
Global Warming is the biggest hoax in the history of the World. It popped up in the mid nineties and now has become a religion. It is an unproven theory being thrown around as fact. Al Gore is trying to use it as a springboard to presidency. Prince C is a moron. Have a nice day.




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Re: Prince Charles, Climate Change=WWII
Posted by: MacMagus
Date: May 02, 2007 07:51PM
> Global Warming is the biggest hoax in the history of the World.

"Global warming" is a misleading catch-phrase.

It's more appropriate to call it catastrophic climate change.
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Re: Prince Charles, Climate Change=WWII
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: May 02, 2007 08:42PM
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spearmint
Natural Selection is the biggest hoax in the history of the World. It popped up in the late thirties and now has become a religion. It is an unproven theory being thrown around as fact. Secular Humanists are trying to use it as a springboard to the destruction of Christianity. Charles D is a moron. Have a nice day.
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Re: Prince Charles, Climate Change=WWII
Posted by: mick e
Date: May 03, 2007 05:13AM
The only hoax being perpetrated is the packaging and selling that global warming is NOT occurring. The good news is that it can only be sold to a very small market since this line of BS is only accepted by those who are either stupid or don't want to accept reality.

To criticize someone who seeks to improve the world through leadership by obfuscating the argument and twisting the intent of his words is a bitter exercise that really makes no sense at all.




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Re: Prince Charles, Climate Change=WWII
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: May 03, 2007 08:30AM
"bitter" is the sole taste sensation of the Neocon movement.
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Re: Prince Charles, Climate Change=WWII
Posted by: trisho.
Date: May 03, 2007 08:54AM
You all know that he's just @#$%& with you right? On other stuff, probably not, but this, quite possibly. His writing's a bit too farcical.



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Re: Prince Charles, Climate Change=WWII
Posted by: Effin Haole
Date: May 03, 2007 11:10AM
It's still all the same backwash.



Strength without compassion is brutality. Compassion without strength is weakness.

We must train our minds to desire what the situation demands.
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Re: Prince Charles, Climate Change=WWII
Posted by: RgrF
Date: May 03, 2007 11:23AM
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trisho.
You all know that he's just @#$%& with you right? On other stuff, probably not, but this, quite possibly. His writing's a bit too farcical.

Hey this is Minty were talking about, his keyboard won't type farce.

Go Cubs!



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Re: Prince Charles, Climate Change=WWII
Posted by: spearmint
Date: May 05, 2007 09:07AM
No folks I am not kidding. You believers have been had. It is a Theory! There is no proof.




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Re: Prince Charles, Climate Change=WWII
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: May 05, 2007 11:56AM
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spearmint
No folks I am not kidding. You believers have been had. It is a Theory! There is no proof.

You have no idea what a theory is, do you?

Do you equally dismiss relativity, gravity and evolution?

In fact, your conjecture that global warming is a hoax falls under conspiracy theory.

The only one who has been "had" is yourself.
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Re: Prince Charles, Climate Change=WWII
Posted by: vision63
Date: May 05, 2007 01:01PM
Even if it were only a theory, it makes no sense to ignore what could possibly be true. The act of positioning ourselves to avoid the possible ravages of global warming is the only intelligent response to this particular theory.

In addition, there is no downside to doing whatever we can to reduce greenhouse emissions unless one has a preference for polluted air, rank water, contaminated foods, and unusual un-natural disasters.
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Re: Prince Charles, Climate Change=WWII
Posted by: Spock
Date: May 05, 2007 01:22PM
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mick e
The good news is that it can only be sold to a very small market since this line of BS is only accepted by those who are either stupid or don't want to accept reality.




Cheney is guilty on both counts.



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Re: Prince Charles, Climate Change=WWII
Posted by: bernadette
Date: May 06, 2007 02:07PM
Prince Charles was talking to plants twenty years ago, they said he was a crazy tree hugger then, but have since discovered that plants do thrive when talked to or have music played to them.
He was an advocate of organic farming twenty years ago and they called him a 'looney, now they say Organic is healthier than pesticide sprayed food.
He now uses an analogy which is rather eccentric even by 'Brit' standards, but he's always been a little 'off the wall', but he's been right, so far.
If something isn't done about 'global' pollution we will see death on a scale never seen before.
It has been estimated that GB will have a third of it's coast under water in fifty years time, due to melting polar ice caps.
His words may lack the sheen of a Hollywood blockbuster but his message is still the same, if we don't change our ways and soon, we may never be able to reverse the damage done, if it's not already too late.
I may be biased slightly as I am a 'Brit' and see our Royals as a bit of a National Treasure, I'm not a total monarchist.
But I do respect the man for going out on a limb to raise awareness of this possible catastrophic problem.
Remember, he doesn't have to say anything, he just turns up wherever he's told to go. He may be right, he may be wrong, but can any of us afford the luxury of avoiding what he has to say?
He has chosen this particular subject as it's something he feels passionately about.

I actually met him at a small luncheon party that my dad couldn't attend, (about thirty local businessmen were invited to the opening of a new government building and luncheon afterwards, so I went in my dad's place) I was surprised, he doesn't seem to be the 'nutter' he's portrayed as by the press. He only shook my hand and asked me what it was like working in the area, but he was pleasant enough, it was about three weeks before he married Diana.
Now Camilla, just don't get me started?
Slapper.
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Re: Prince Charles, Climate Change=WWII
Posted by: voodoopenguin
Date: May 06, 2007 05:05PM
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bernadette
I may be biased slightly as I am a 'Brit' and see our Royals as a bit of a National Treasure, I'm not a total monarchist.

I will add that I am also a UK citizen but cannot be considered bias as I am more against than for the monarchy however I still agree with everything you said about Charles.
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Re: Prince Charles, Climate Change=WWII
Posted by: bernadette
Date: May 07, 2007 05:11AM
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voodoopenguin
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bernadette
I may be biased slightly as I am a 'Brit' and see our Royals as a bit of a National Treasure, I'm not a total monarchist.

I will add that I am also a UK citizen but cannot be considered bias as I am more against than for the monarchy however I still agree with everything you said about Charles.


He's been saying it for years and now others are starting to say,'Yeah the bloke was right,' We can agree to differ on the Monarchy, but the planet is something we all need to deal with,and soon. :-)
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Re: Prince Charles, Climate Change=WWII
Posted by: billb
Date: May 07, 2007 02:33PM
Show me where the bodies lie.
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Re: Prince Charles, Climate Change=WWII
Posted by: spearmint
Date: May 09, 2007 08:13AM
Read if you really think you are open minded. I don't think you will.
[www.spiegel.de]
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Re: Prince Charles, Climate Change=WWII
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: May 09, 2007 09:50AM
Nice article. It does say that climate change is real, however. You say it is a hoax. Which is it?

Schoenes Fraulines, ja?



German sunworshippers enjoy a cocktail on a Baltic Sea beach in early May. Germany could experience a tourist boom as a result of climate change.
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Re: Prince Charles, Climate Change=WWII
Posted by: bernadette
Date: May 09, 2007 02:10PM
I don't think any of us can afford to sit and think of this as a hoax.
If it is it doesn't matter, if it's not we're f u cked.
I'd rather go with the ' we're f u cked' and start trying to do something about it.
Better to be safe than sorry. YES?



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Re: Prince Charles, Climate Change=WWII
Posted by: Effin Haole
Date: May 09, 2007 02:42PM
Nice link to counter your argument there Minty?

Next you will be saying Bush is the greatest President in US history....



Strength without compassion is brutality. Compassion without strength is weakness.

We must train our minds to desire what the situation demands.
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Re: Prince Charles, Climate Change=WWII
Posted by: bernadette
Date: May 09, 2007 06:24PM
@Spin' it whichever way you like, but just take a look at the planet we live on, see the changes.
Can you afford to call this a hoax?
What if you're wrong?
Just answer the last part of my post Spearmint?
WHAT IF YOU'RE WRONG?

Sorry, I forgot, what qualifications did you say you had, apart from an over inflated sense of your own opinion.
Geologist, meteorologist environmentalist? Anything to do with the environment would be fine?
Something that can convince me you know for sure what you're saying is correct.
I aware I know very little, I accept that.
But I have eyes, I see what's happening to the world around me, do you?
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Re: Prince Charles, Climate Change=WWII
Posted by: spearmint
Date: May 10, 2007 09:20AM
Change life as we know it on the basis of a hypothesis that is drawing more and more flak? It is political BS designed to take more control of the planet.




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Re: Prince Charles, Climate Change=WWII
Posted by: Effin Haole
Date: May 10, 2007 10:34AM
Change life as we know it?

Hardly. More like adapt to make things better.

Do you seriously think that the planet is fine and dandy as it is with no need to help prolong it's liveability?

It's interesting that folks who demand that Democrats put up or shut up with a plan for Iraq are the same folks with no plan to help lesson our impact on the environment or make the world a better place than they found it.



Strength without compassion is brutality. Compassion without strength is weakness.

We must train our minds to desire what the situation demands.
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Re: Prince Charles, Climate Change=WWII
Posted by: spearmint
Date: May 10, 2007 03:04PM
I just love this. I am supposed to feel guilty? C'mon let's all ride bikes and get run over by semi's delivering staples and kill cows because of their flatulence. Then we can all become vegans and fight over the vegetables. Just don't like industry? Move to a third world country. By the way do not donate your car. Destroy it so nobody else will have a chance to pollute with it. Lord love a duck.




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Re: Prince Charles, Climate Change=WWII
Posted by: spearmint
Date: May 10, 2007 03:13PM
I am supposed to feel guilty? C'mon let's all us ride bikes and get run over by semi's delivering staples. Let's kill all the cows because of flatulence and become vegans. Then we can riot over the vegetables. Don't like industry? Move to a third world country and be lucky to make $5 a day. Now don't donate your car. Destroy it so some barbarian cannot use it to pollute. Lord love a duck.




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Re: Prince Charles, Climate Change=WWII
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: May 10, 2007 03:44PM
Minty, your paranoid delusions are getting worse.

Who is going to control more of the planet? Al Gore?
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Re: Prince Charles, Climate Change=WWII
Posted by: voodoopenguin
Date: May 10, 2007 04:37PM
Minty, can you please let us know when the version you really want us to read is ready.
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Re: Prince Charles, Climate Change=WWII
Posted by: spearmint
Date: May 10, 2007 08:35PM
Here is what I want you to read but you won't. Too much text and not PC.
[www.junkscience.com]




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Re: Prince Charles, Climate Change=WWII
Posted by: JoeH
Date: May 10, 2007 10:18PM
And too much junk science and writing of its own. I have read it, and that is my summary of its articles.



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