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Kristi Noem: dog (and goat) murderer
Posted by: hal
Date: April 26, 2024 12:50PM
[www.theguardian.com]

“Cricket was a wirehair pointer, about 14 months old,” the South Dakota governor writes in a new book, adding that the dog, a female, had an “aggressive personality” and needed to be trained to be used for hunting pheasant.

She includes her story about the ill-fated Cricket, she says, to illustrate her willingness, in politics as well as in South Dakota life, to do anything “difficult, messy and ugly” if it simply needs to be done.

By taking Cricket on a pheasant hunt with older dogs, Noem says, she hoped to calm the young dog down and begin to teach her how to behave. Unfortunately, Cricket ruined the hunt, going “out of her mind with excitement, chasing all those birds and having the time of her life”.

Noem describes calling Cricket, then using an electronic collar to attempt to bring her under control. Nothing worked. Then, on the way home after the hunt, as Noem stopped to talk to a local family, Cricket escaped Noem’s truck and attacked the family’s chickens, “grabb[ing] one chicken at a time, crunching it to death with one bite, then dropping it to attack another”.

Cricket the untrainable dog, Noem writes, behaved like “a trained assassin”.

When Noem finally grabbed Cricket, she says, the dog “whipped around to bite me”. Then, as the chickens’ owner wept, Noem repeatedly apologised, wrote the shocked family a check “for the price they asked, and helped them dispose of the carcasses littering the scene of the crime”.

Through it all, Noem says, Cricket was “the picture of pure joy”.

“I hated that dog,” Noem writes, adding that Cricket had proved herself “untrainable”, “dangerous to anyone she came in contact with” and “less than worthless … as a hunting dog”.

“At that moment,” Noem says, “I realised I had to put her down.”

Noem, who also represented her state in Congress for eight years, got her gun, then led Cricket to a gravel pit.

“It was not a pleasant job,” she writes, “but it had to be done. And after it was over, I realised another unpleasant job needed to be done.”

Incredibly, Noem’s tale of slaughter is not finished.

Her family, she writes, also owned a male goat that was “nasty and mean”, because it had not been castrated. Furthermore, the goat smelled “disgusting, musky, rancid” and “loved to chase” Noem’s children, knocking them down and ruining their clothes.

Noem decided to kill the unnamed goat the same way she had just killed Cricket the dog. But though she “dragged him to a gravel pit”, the goat jumped as she shot and therefore survived the wound. Noem says she went back to her truck, retrieved another shell, then “hurried back to the gravel pit and put him down”.

At that point, Noem writes, she realised a construction crew had watched her kill both animals. The startled workers swiftly got back to work, she writes, only for a school bus to arrive and drop off Noem’s children.

“Kennedy looked around confused,” Noem writes of her daughter, who asked: “Hey, where’s Cricket?”
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Re: Kristi Noem: dog (and goat) murderer
Posted by: pdq
Date: April 26, 2024 12:53PM
This should win her big points with the MAGA crowd.
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Re: Kristi Noem: dog (and goat) murderer
Posted by: Acer
Date: April 26, 2024 01:25PM
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hal
At that point, Noem writes, she realised a construction crew had watched her kill both animals. The startled workers swiftly got back to work, she writes[/i]
Wait, she offed both animals the same day? I guess she saved one cleaning of the gun.

Hide the cat, kids.



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Re: Kristi Noem: dog (and goat) murderer
Posted by: special
Date: April 26, 2024 01:43PM
Are you supposed to clean the gun after each use? I know nothing about guns as you can see.
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Re: Kristi Noem: dog (and goat) murderer
Posted by: Tiangou
Date: April 26, 2024 02:25PM
It's strange that we're at the point where a politician is bragging about being a violent sociopath to score political points.

Right?

This should not be "normal" in any society.

...Also, this puts her father's death in a new light. Does anyone know her whereabouts that day?


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Re: Kristi Noem: dog (and goat) murderer
Posted by: Speedy
Date: April 26, 2024 02:50PM
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pdq
This should win her big points with the MAGA crowd.

Almost makes her a shoo-in as Trump’s VP pick.


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Re: Kristi Noem: dog (and goat) murderer
Posted by: Dennis S
Date: April 26, 2024 03:03PM
“ Cricket the untrainable dog, Noem writes, behaved like “a trained assassin”.”

Kind of like Noem herself.
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Re: Kristi Noem: dog (and goat) murderer
Posted by: Speedy
Date: April 26, 2024 03:10PM
Gunners in South Dakota love canned hunts. I’m surprised she didn’t go for the goat with a high capacity clip.


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Re: Kristi Noem: dog (and goat) murderer
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: April 26, 2024 03:31PM

“Hey, where’s Cricket?”


(Blows off rifle end)


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Re: Kristi Noem: dog (and goat) murderer
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: April 26, 2024 03:32PM
Also, she's hot, and gunners cream themselves at hot chicks with guns. Big points.

Although, I'll add, they also can get quite excited at the image of a gun alone, ifyaknowhatimean.


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Re: Kristi Noem: dog (and goat) murderer
Posted by: bfd
Date: April 26, 2024 04:12PM
Kristi the Clown …



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Re: Kristi Noem: dog (and goat) murderer
Posted by: hal
Date: April 26, 2024 04:38PM
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Re: Kristi Noem: dog (and goat) murderer
Posted by: $tevie
Date: April 26, 2024 05:58PM
She says in the article she also had to "put down" three horses a couple of weeks ago. All three horses had to be put down all of a sudden?

This is how serial killers start their careers.


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Re: Kristi Noem: dog (and goat) murderer
Posted by: PeterB
Date: April 26, 2024 07:10PM
Indeed, she sounds like she's got the makings of a sociopath, if she isn't already.



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Re: Kristi Noem: dog (and goat) murderer
Posted by: Diana
Date: April 26, 2024 08:57PM
Put down the three horses, which the family had for over 25 years, why? Put down a 14-month old dog, not even fully grown, because she was unsuitable for hunting but had a killer instinct and was untrainable and unmanageable? Put down the goat, because he was mean and smelly and acted like an uncut male goat? The horses—useless and too old to be useful. The dog—a puppy, with a puppy’s exuberance and needed a strong hand—too much time? Too much work? Not useful in her current state. The goat? Pushed the kids down and got them dirty!

Maybe Noem is what the MAGAts want, but as for me the answer is a resounding NO. Don’t want her in government, don’t want her as a neighbor, much less anything else. I feel for the kids.
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Re: Kristi Noem: dog (and goat) murderer
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: April 26, 2024 10:24PM
It should be a felony for some people to own pets.

To put down an animal because it's an inconvenience is unconscionable and heinous.

The dog isn't suitable for hunting?

Don't take it.

Re-home the dog to someone who actually likes animals.

She hated the dog, and the dog probably knew that.

It's more likely the dog wasn't untrainable; she just couldn't train it or be bothered to work with a trainer.





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Re: Kristi Noem: dog (and goat) murderer
Posted by: steve...
Date: April 26, 2024 10:34PM
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Speedy
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pdq
This should win her big points with the MAGA crowd.

Almost makes her a shoo-in as Trump’s VP pick.

Yes it does. Has Trump ever had a pet?

Ever since President William McKinley’s administration — which began in 1897 — every single occupant of the White House, save for Trump, has had a dog at some point. Over the last century, the tradition of presidential dogs became so formalized that when Scott Walker, then the Republican governor of Wisconsin, ran for president in 2016, his allergy to dog dander was seen as a liability. But like so many other political conventions, Trump turned that on its head as soon as he took office.

WaPo




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Re: Kristi Noem: dog (and goat) murderer
Posted by: GGD
Date: April 26, 2024 10:34PM
So, can a VP, "put down" an untrainable and unmanageable president, then become president and claim presidential immunity to avoid prosecution?

Asking for a friend...
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Re: Kristi Noem: dog (and goat) murderer
Posted by: gabester
Date: April 26, 2024 10:55PM
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GGD
So, can a VP, "put down" an untrainable and unmanageable president, then become president and claim presidential immunity to avoid prosecution?

Asking for a friend...

According to certain lawyers of certain schools of legal / political thought, the answer is "Indeed, yes, so long as Congress does not impeach said ascendant President."

So, the VP might have to deal with, in additional to an unmanageable President, enough congressional votes to prevent a quorum.


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Re: Kristi Noem: dog (and goat) murderer
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: April 27, 2024 08:10AM
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steve...
Has Trump ever had a pet?

Yes, he has…

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Re: Kristi Noem: dog (and goat) murderer
Posted by: pdq
Date: April 27, 2024 08:23AM
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DeusxMac
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steve...
Has Trump ever had a pet?

Yes, he has…

Ah! The legendary fawning weasel lapdog!
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Re: Kristi Noem: dog (and goat) murderer
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: April 27, 2024 08:36AM
That story is just missing the "And the construction workers came up to me...big guys...never cried before...and they were crying...'Ma'am, the way you handled those vicious animals! You should rule the world, ma'am!'"
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Re: Kristi Noem: dog (and goat) murderer
Posted by: Ted King
Date: April 27, 2024 12:06PM
To Rough and Tuff Country Folk™ (not like sissy city folks), animals are mostly objects - property to do with as they want. Why be sensitive about a critter's feelings if you are just going to kill and eat it anyway. It's not the Future Farmer way to get emotionally attached.

Having grown up in a deeply rural area of Iowa, I can say that I did see farmers who had that attitude, but plenty didn't. Most had this odd empathy for most of their critters - especially their dogs - while also treating them as economic units when necessary to get the income they thought they needed.


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Re: Kristi Noem: dog (and goat) murderer
Posted by: Blankity Blank
Date: April 27, 2024 01:35PM
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“Kennedy looked around confused,” Noem writes of her daughter, who asked: “Hey, where’s Cricket?”

::sigh:: “Kennedy, why don’t you head on down to the gravel pit, I think I saw Cricket run down there. Mommy is just going to run back to her truck, and then she’ll be there in just a second…


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Re: Kristi Noem: dog (and goat) murderer
Posted by: Tiangou
Date: April 27, 2024 01:40PM
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Blankity Blank
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hal
“Kennedy looked around confused,” Noem writes of her daughter, who asked: “Hey, where’s Cricket?”

::sigh:: “Kennedy, why don’t you head on down to the gravel pit, I think I saw Cricket run down there. Mommy is just going to run back to her truck, and then she’ll be there in just a second…

Kennedy had proved herself “untrainable”, “dangerous to anyone she came in contact with” and “less than worthless … as a political trophy...”


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Re: Kristi Noem: dog (and goat) murderer
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: April 27, 2024 03:12PM
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Also, she's hot

She is NOT hot.


It is what it is.
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Re: Kristi Noem: dog (and goat) murderer
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: April 27, 2024 04:20PM
She is NOT hot.


GOT to agree — NOT hot.





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Re: Kristi Noem: dog (and goat) murderer
Posted by: Tiangou
Date: April 27, 2024 04:39PM
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RAMd®d
She is NOT hot.


GOT to agree — NOT hot.

Sooooo much plastic surgery.

I don't mind a tweak here and there, but that much scar tissue is a big turn off.


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Re: Kristi Noem: dog (and goat) murderer
Posted by: sekker
Date: April 27, 2024 05:24PM
So strange what people will do and say for attention.
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Re: Kristi Noem: dog (and goat) murderer
Posted by: gabester
Date: April 27, 2024 05:50PM
Just thinking about this again, and googling the image of a wirehair pointer, and then kristy noem wirehair pointer - I do hope that she is selected as the Republican VP.

It will be a resoundingly losing ticket. A very large swath of the same women who are pro-life and an even larger swath of suburban and urban dwellers are adamantly anti-animal cruelty and this story is just beyond anything they could conceive of.

The reality is that there just aren't enough rural folk who might feel the same way to carry a ticket like this to approaching anything other than a resounding defeat.


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Re: Kristi Noem: dog (and goat) murderer
Posted by: Lizabeth
Date: April 27, 2024 08:55PM
The Lincoln Project already has an ad out: [youtu.be]
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Re: Kristi Noem: dog (and goat) murderer
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: April 27, 2024 10:09PM
Geeeze that was tough to watch.





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There’s trouble — it's time to play the sound of my people.

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Insisting on your rights without acknowledging your responsibilities isn’t freedom, it’s adolescence.

I've been to the edge of the map, and there be monsters.

We are a government of laws, not men.

Everybody counts or nobody counts.

When a good man is hurt,
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At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them.

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There is no safety for honest men except
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Re: Kristi Noem: dog (and goat) murderer
Posted by: Speedy
Date: April 27, 2024 10:16PM
For gunners the sad thing is she couldn’t hit the broadside of a captive goat except with a second shot. Of course, gunners might use that as ammunition to allow large capacity clips.


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Re: Kristi Noem: dog (and goat) murderer
Posted by: $tevie
Date: April 28, 2024 06:04PM
In addition to be frustratingly cruel, destroying an animal because it was a pain in the arse is a really outdated idea. She didn't even try to see if a rescue would take it. Face it, she was angry so she killed it. What a psycho.


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Re: Kristi Noem: dog (and goat) murderer
Posted by: Speedy
Date: April 28, 2024 07:29PM
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$tevie
In addition to be frustratingly cruel, destroying an animal because it was a pain in the arse is a really outdated idea. She didn't even try to see if a rescue would take it. Face it, she was angry so she killed it. What a psycho.

Maybe some anger but I really think she got off on killing the defenseless dog and goat. A psycho either way.


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Re: Kristi Noem: dog (and goat) murderer
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: April 28, 2024 07:57PM
”Psychopathy, or psychopathic personality is a personality construct characterized by impaired empathy and remorse, and bold, disinhibited, and egocentric traits masked by superficial charm and the outward presence of apparent normality.”
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Re: Kristi Noem: dog (and goat) murderer
Posted by: Tiangou
Date: April 28, 2024 08:07PM
Noem explains her sick, sick rationale.

(She figured that she had the right under state law to kill the dog, so she killed the dog.)

[twitter.com]


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Re: Kristi Noem: dog (and goat) murderer
Posted by: PeterB
Date: April 28, 2024 09:38PM
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”Psychopathy, or psychopathic personality is a personality construct characterized by impaired empathy and remorse, and bold, disinhibited, and egocentric traits masked by superficial charm and the outward presence of apparent normality.”

I'm still undecided if she's more a psychopath or sociopath. She has elements of both. Of course, this makes sense, given who her Orange God is.



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Re: Kristi Noem: dog (and goat) murderer
Posted by: Ted King
Date: April 29, 2024 09:07AM
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Tiangou
Noem explains her sick, sick rationale.

(She figured that she had the right under state law to kill the dog, so she killed the dog.)

[twitter.com]

I think even if the dog's actions warranted being deemed enough of a threat by most people in her neck of the woods to be put down, there's a coldness about how she describes "dispatching" the dog. This "I could legally do it, so it's okay" defense reinforces it. As others said earlier in the thread - her words show her low amount of empathy. Not a shred of "I'm sorry I had to do it, but it was necessary." I don't doubt that that low amount of empathy permeates her political thinking.


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Re: Kristi Noem: dog (and goat) murderer
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: April 29, 2024 09:20AM
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Speedy
For gunners the sad thing is she couldn’t hit the broadside of a captive goat except with a second shot. Of course, gunners might use that as ammunition to allow large capacity clips.

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Re: Kristi Noem: dog (and goat) murderer
Posted by: GGD
Date: April 29, 2024 12:18PM
If only there had been a good dog (and goat and horse) with a gun.
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Re: Kristi Noem: dog (and goat) murderer
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: April 29, 2024 12:38PM
It's probably a Christian Nationalist thing; "it's OK because it's right there in official "God's" word."..

"And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."

dominion noun
- sovereignty or control

sovereignty noun
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Re: Kristi Noem: dog (and goat) murderer
Posted by: Ted King
Date: April 29, 2024 01:06PM
I heard on a CBS show that this story was within the context of her explaining why she is so fit to be governor (VP) - she has the guts to do the hard things without reservation and certainly not regret.


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Re: Kristi Noem: dog (and goat) murderer
Posted by: pdq
Date: April 29, 2024 01:14PM
It appeals to the Cruelty Caucus.
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Re: Kristi Noem: dog (and goat) murderer
Posted by: Spock
Date: April 29, 2024 02:38PM
Perfect VP material. Vote Rapist and Puppy Killer, what a great team.


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Re: Kristi Noem: dog (and goat) murderer
Posted by: Diana
Date: April 29, 2024 02:48PM
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Ted King
I heard on a CBS show that this story was within the context of her explaining why she is so fit to be governor (VP) - she has the guts to do the hard things without reservation and certainly not regret.

It isn’t the hard things that need doing, but the right (or correct, or socially acceptable) things that NEED done. You don’t have to agree with it on a personal level, but you need to be able to do the things that we, as a people, need.

Just the ability to do the hard things don’t make you suitable for governing. So far she has shown herself incapable of doing the right things. The utter tone deafness is nauseating.
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Re: Kristi Noem: dog (and goat) murderer
Posted by: Janit
Date: May 03, 2024 07:24AM
Meanwhile, Joe Biden sent his difficult dogs to live with others.

So Biden must not be good president material. He's too soft on dogs.

/sarcasm.
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