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Tragic crash in Florida
Posted by: pdq
Date: May 14, 2024 08:15PM
Drunk Florida Man (at 6:30 AM) drifts across line, sideswipes old school bus converted to carry 53 migrants to pick melons. Eight died.

Wait - migrants? Yep, most from Mexico.

I thought that was illegal in Florida. Shouldn’t they have been flown to some blue state without warning?

Not when there’s melons to be picked.

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“They are hard-working individuals and there is absolutely nothing wrong with them being here,” Marion County Sheriff Billy Woods said, after being asked if those on board were undocumented.

Umm…you didn’t really answer the question, Sheriff. You just kinda said, Well, these are hard workin good Messicans.

Who hired them and put them on that bus? Did they check their documents?

Just wondering.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 05/14/2024 08:25PM by pdq.
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Re: Tragic crash in Florida
Posted by: Tiangou
Date: May 14, 2024 08:50PM
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pdq
Who hired them and put them on that bus? Did they check their documents?

Just wondering.

Could easily have been documented migrant workers.

[www.tampabay.com]

Roth is one of hundreds of employers in Florida who collectively hired 25,451 guest workers under the H-2A visa program from October 2022 to March 2023 and 50,973 in all of 2022. Florida farmers rely on the program more than any other state, and the temporary workers now pick most of Florida’s citrus crop...



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Re: Tragic crash in Florida
Posted by: Speedy
Date: May 14, 2024 08:54PM
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Tiangou
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pdq
Who hired them and put them on that bus? Did they check their documents?

Just wondering.

Could easily have been documented migrant workers.

[www.tampabay.com]

Roth is one of hundreds of employers in Florida who collectively hired 25,451 guest workers under the H-2A visa program from October 2022 to March 2023 and 50,973 in all of 2022. Florida farmers rely on the program more than any other state, and the temporary workers now pick most of Florida’s citrus crop...

Sure, that’s why the sheriff gave the answer he did.



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Re: Tragic crash in Florida
Posted by: $tevie
Date: May 14, 2024 09:19PM
This performative anti-illegals BS is going to bite the GOP in their collective butts. The economy needs migrant workers and when this is messed with there is hell to pay, for example when Maryland couldn't find enough people to pick crabs resulting in the cost of crab meat skyrocketing (although seriously, every year we have some reason that crab meat skyrockets, but this crab-picking issue was a real thing).

It's like abortion. These idiots chase cars and when they catch them they get run over instead.

God forbid, if Trump gets in and deports everyone he sees with brown skin, the economy is going to tank. And this time there will be no adults in the room.

In the meantime, I am very sad that these people lost their lives, especially due to a drunk driver. What a tragedy.



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Re: Tragic crash in Florida
Posted by: Speedy
Date: May 14, 2024 09:24PM
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$tevie
God forbid, if Trump gets in and deports everyone he sees with brown skin, the economy is going to tank. And this time there will be no adults in the room.

Trust me, this won’t happen because moneyed interests won’t let it happen. He’ll continue to feed hate to the MAGAt base but his rich cronies will be allowed to continue to exploit these undocumented workers.



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Re: Tragic crash in Florida
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: May 14, 2024 11:54PM
Sure, that’s why the sheriff gave the answer he did.


Maybe the Sheriff felt that at that point in time IWNOTFB.

That question smacks of a Stop and Demand attitude of requiring one's 'papers' should one be stopped for suspicion of being brown.






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Re: Tragic crash in Florida
Posted by: Mr645
Date: May 15, 2024 05:55AM
Legal migrants vs. illegal migrants.

No one is against legal immigration.



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Re: Tragic crash in Florida
Posted by: Mr645
Date: May 15, 2024 05:58AM
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$tevie
This performative anti-illegals BS is going to bite the GOP in their collective butts. The economy needs LEGAL migrant workers and when this is messed with there is hell to pay, for example when Maryland couldn't find enough people to pick crabs resulting in the cost of crab meat skyrocketing (although seriously, every year we have some reason that crab meat skyrockets, but this crab-picking issue was a real thing).

God forbid, if Trump gets in and deports everyone he sees with brown skin, the economy is going to tank. Sad the left has gotten you to believe Trump is racist in any way. When in fact Trump has done more for minorities than any President since Lincoln
In the meantime, I am very sad that these people lost their lives, especially due to a drunk driver. What a tragedy.
Solution (a) ban alcohol or (b) ban trucks



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Re: Tragic crash in Florida
Posted by: Speedy
Date: May 15, 2024 06:30AM
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Mr645
No one is against legal immigration.

Just so those legal immigrants are the right people.



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Re: Tragic crash in Florida
Posted by: Mr645
Date: May 15, 2024 07:04AM
you ca read about legal migrant workers here
[www.dol.gov]

But illegal workers can work as life guards since they swim so good.
[www.yahoo.com]



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Re: Tragic crash in Florida
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: May 15, 2024 07:30AM
I'm all for immigrants entering the country, whether for jobs, education, family connections, escape from violence at home, healthcare, etc.

What is NOT ok is employers exploiting those people and exposing them to unsafe conditions, like this bus.
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Re: Tragic crash in Florida
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: May 15, 2024 07:32AM
"It's like abortion. These idiots chase cars and when they catch them they get run over instead."


Truth.

Unfortunately the rest of us get run over too.
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Re: Tragic crash in Florida
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: May 15, 2024 07:52AM
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Speedy
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$tevie
God forbid, if Trump gets in and deports everyone he sees with brown skin, the economy is going to tank. And this time there will be no adults in the room.

Trust me, this won’t happen because moneyed interests won’t let it happen. He’ll continue to feed hate to the MAGAt base but his rich cronies will be allowed to continue to exploit these undocumented workers.

Much like they will fly to abortion-legal countries once Trump signs the national abortion ban.
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Re: Tragic crash in Florida
Posted by: gabester
Date: May 15, 2024 09:55AM
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Lux Interior
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Speedy
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$tevie
God forbid, if Trump gets in and deports everyone he sees with brown skin, the economy is going to tank. And this time there will be no adults in the room.

Trust me, this won’t happen because moneyed interests won’t let it happen. He’ll continue to feed hate to the MAGAt base but his rich cronies will be allowed to continue to exploit these undocumented workers.

Much like they will fly to abortion-legal countries once Trump signs the national abortion ban.

It's important to point out to anyone who will listen that P01135809 and the GQP are seeking a two-tier system of justice to benefit and enrich themselves at the expense of everyone else, and they are doing their best to manipulate perception that they are in fact victims of such an unfair, tiered system.

It is absolutely sick, pathological projection.

Cronies will absolutely be able to get the workers they need, but lawful companies that don't toe the line by donating to the campaign and corruptly seeking spoils will not, and their business will suffer as a result. It's deeply concerning how deep this rot could go if these kakistokleptocrats are re-elected.



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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/15/2024 09:57AM by gabester.
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