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Pulls in $25M.

Trump just made more promises to oil industry campaign donors

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In a rambling fundraising pitch to oil executives in Houston on Wednesday, former president Donald Trump promised them he would immediately approve their projects and expand drilling in a second term — just as he worked to expedite the controversial Dakota Access and Keystone XL pipelines soon after taking office in 2016.

Trump said that if he returned to office in January, he would issue “immediate approvals for energy infrastructure. That’s pipelines, power plants,” according to the detailed notes of one attendee at the fundraiser, who shared on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to comment publicly.

“I approved the Keystone pipeline, and I approved the Dakota Access pipeline,” Trump said at the fundraiser at Houston’s Post Oak hotel, according to the notes.

The event, organized by three oil executives, underscores how Trump is courting an industry that ranked as a main beneficiary of his time in the White House, as he seeks to narrow President Biden’s fundraising advantage. Less than 24 hours later, Senate Democrats launched an investigation of Trump’s fundraising dinner last month at his Mar-a-Lago Club, where he asked oil executives to steer $1 billion to his campaign and pledged to reverse dozens of Biden’s environmental policies.

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Saint Cloud, Minnesota, where the weather is wonderful even when it isn't.

I reaaaaallly wonder what Musk thinks of this? Is he still going to vote for Trump?

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Republicans do not have enough IQ combined to understand any of this.

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Republicans do not have enough IQ combined to understand any of this.

Biden’s fault

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Republicans do not have enough IQ combined to understand any of this.

Biden’s fault

Yep, he was first elected just as global warming took off.

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Carnos Jax
I reaaaaallly wonder what Musk thinks of this? Is he still going to vote for Trump?

Musk is not now and has never been an environmentalist.

He's a political extremist and a pragmatist and he will vote for whomever promises the least regulation and says the most inflammatory things... unless he's in one of his "moods."

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I reaaaaallly wonder what Musk thinks of this? Is he still going to vote for Trump?

Musk is not now and has never been an environmentalist.

He's a political extremist and a pragmatist and he will vote for whomever promises the least regulation and says the most inflammatory things... unless he's in one of his "moods."

Respectfully speaking, that is not true. Not only did he vote for Obama, Clinton and Biden….he busted his but trying to save the planet from global warming. No one works that hard for money and power, especially when they’re already fabulously rich, unless they were passionate about the environment.

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I reaaaaallly wonder what Musk thinks of this? Is he still going to vote for Trump?

Musk is not now and has never been an environmentalist.

He's a political extremist and a pragmatist and he will vote for whomever promises the least regulation and says the most inflammatory things... unless he's in one of his "moods."

Respectfully speaking, that is not true. Not only did he vote for Obama, Clinton and Biden….he busted his but trying to save the planet from global warming. No one works that hard for money and power, especially when they’re already fabulously rich, unless they were passionate about the environment.

pragmatic
[ prag-mat-ik ]
adjective
of or relating to a practical point of view or practical considerations.

They offered the highest subsidies for his horribly polluting water-consuming paint-burning endangered-species murdering businesses.

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pragmatic
[ prag-mat-ik ]
adjective
of or relating to a practical point of view or practical considerations.

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No one works that hard for money and power, especially when they’re already fabulously rich...

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Tiangou
...his horribly polluting water-consuming paint-burning endangered-species murdering businesses.

Mischaracterizing Tesla in this manner, one would expect a more scathing portrait of the legacy auto industry.



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pragmatic
[ prag-mat-ik ]
adjective
of or relating to a practical point of view or practical considerations.

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No one works that hard for money and power, especially when they’re already fabulously rich...

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Tiangou
...his horribly polluting water-consuming paint-burning endangered-species murdering businesses.

Mischaracterizing Tesla in this manner, one would expect a more scathing portrait of the legacy auto industry.

Businesses plural.

Collectively, they are some of the worst polluters in the world.

Space-X is one of the worst on carbon emissions alone.

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pragmatic
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adjective
of or relating to a practical point of view or practical considerations.

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No one works that hard for money and power, especially when they’re already fabulously rich...

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Tiangou
...his horribly polluting water-consuming paint-burning endangered-species murdering businesses.

Mischaracterizing Tesla in this manner, one would expect a more scathing portrait of the legacy auto industry.

Businesses plural.

Collectively, they are some of the worst polluters in the world.

Space-X is one of the worst on carbon emissions alone.

To say “collectively” is a HUGE distortion of the truth. Specifically rocketry in general, including SpaceX, puts out a fraction, almost immeasurable drop in the ocean that is global carbon emissions from other industries, like commercial aviation and automotive. On top of that, SpaceX is pioneering and eventually will go to a methane only infrastructure. And unlike traditional kerosene based rocket fuel, methane can, and will once regulations require, be made from the carbon dioxide in the air. This is one of the reasons SpaceX chose methane.

Silly me, citing facts and posting authoritative links again.

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No, silly you for lacking any critical thinking and not reading what you post. Here is what your link said:

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When the 165-foot-tall (50 meters) SpaceX Starship upper stage crashed into the Indian Ocean last week during its third test flight, environmentally conscious observers wondered whether the stainless-steel vehicle, perhaps containing hundreds of kilograms of residual fuel, could endanger marine life. The good news is — not really. Starship uses one of the most environmentally friendly fuel combinations available. Still, sustainability experts warn that the rocket is not without its problems.

"Debris and fuel [from the latest Starship launch] are a drop in the ocean," Tommaso Sgobba, executive director of the International Association for the Advancement of Space Safety, told Space.com.

Starship's Raptor engines burn liquid oxygen and liquid methane, neither of which, fortunately, is toxic to the environment.

This is all really basic high school math and science, in case you wanted to research it yourself. But since you don't, here's someone who did it for you:

[www.youtube.com]



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Dude, get off the fanboy train.

It's crashed.

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Dude, get off the fanboy train.

It's crashed.

All you’ve got are insults when I’ve laid bare your lack of knowledge.

Forget the historic forest that was leveled and the people who no longer have drinking water in Germany.

Forget the wildlife destroyed for the Texas launch site.

Forget the Tesla factory fires and paint spills.

Forget the carbon footprint of a dozen space launches per month and the devastating levels of toxic filth poured into our atmosphere from the busted satellites.

Jax wants to talk about methane.

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Forget the historic forest that was leveled and the people who no longer have drinking water in Germany.

It was a tree farm for god sakes, and the additional water usage was a drop in the ocean of overall water use in Germany and that region, and NO ONE is going without drinking water as a result.

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Forget the wildlife destroyed for the Texas launch site.

Again, this shows you complete lack of critical thinking on these matters. Their physical foot print is tiny, but more importantly because of the buffer zone around their small launch site, it guarantees no 'wildlife' will be destroyed. Don't you know places like this and Kennedy Space Center are boons for wildlife preservation??? Besides, why aren't you crying for the millions of times more of wildlife acreage destroyed in this country due to commercial development???? You are strangely silent on those matters but a bullhorn of opposition if it involves Tesla or SpaceX.

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Forget the Tesla factory fires and paint spills.

A couple of minor incidents, but yes let's forget the millions of more factory fires and paint spills that occur at non-Tesla facilities. Again, you're strangely silent.

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Forget the carbon footprint of a dozen space launches per month and the devastating levels of toxic filth poured into our atmosphere from the busted satellites.

You didn't watch the video, did you?

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Jax wants to talk about methane.

You know, this is what I'm talking about. You have preconceived notions which are formed from random headlines you read. You don't even do yourself a service by reading the articles themselves, nor do you think for yourself about what you've read. I mean, come on, please tell me how what you posted is congruous with the "authoritative" link you gave:

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Space-X is one of the worst on carbon emissions alone.

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When the 165-foot-tall (50 meters) SpaceX Starship upper stage crashed into the Indian Ocean last week during its third test flight, environmentally conscious observers wondered whether the stainless-steel vehicle, perhaps containing hundreds of kilograms of residual fuel, could endanger marine life. The good news is — not really. Starship uses one of the most environmentally friendly fuel combinations available. Still, sustainability experts warn that the rocket is not without its problems.

"Debris and fuel [from the latest Starship launch] are a drop in the ocean," Tommaso Sgobba, executive director of the International Association for the Advancement of Space Safety, told Space.com.

Starship's Raptor engines burn liquid oxygen and liquid methane, neither of which, fortunately, is toxic to the environment.

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If we want to be in space, we are going to have environmental affects. Relatively, the pollution from our entire space program is minuscule and is more than offset, by magnitudes, by the benefits from Tesla’s EVs.

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Saint Cloud, Minnesota, where the weather is wonderful even when it isn't.

Glad to see you haven’t forgotten your math and science skills Speedy.

What I’m wondering is what Musk thinks of Trump’s anti-EV promises to these oil executives?

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Glad to see you haven’t forgotten your math and science skills Speedy.

7th grade was almost a lifetime ago but some things stick with you like John Glenn and Gus Grissom. Also, I saw The Right Stuff.

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This is all really basic high school math and science, in case you wanted to research it yourself. But since you don't, here's someone who did it for you:

[www.youtube.com]

Tim's a shill, dude.

And grade school math may make you feel good about yourself, but NOAA scientists have crunched the real numbers.
[agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com]

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So gas won't be $4.00+ per gallon, fixing inflation without trying to deplete the national oil reserves

Just another reason to vote for Trump

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So gas won't be $4.00+ per gallon, fixing inflation without trying to deplete the national oil reserves

Just another reason to vote for Trump

Our production and how many people we murder to pump and move petroleum products around has next to no influence whatsoever on the price of gas.

Oil products are priced based on worldwide production, capacity, and market manipulation by cartels.

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