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I wonder if the FBI can listen in on iPhone too?
Posted by: Mactel
Date: July 15, 2007 09:15PM
[news.com.com]
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Re: I wonder if the FBI can listen in on iPhone too?
Posted by: vision63
Date: July 15, 2007 09:19PM
They call it chatter.
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Re: I wonder if the FBI can listen in on iPhone too?
Posted by: Monster
Date: July 15, 2007 09:24PM
while not new news, I'm not sure I like that they can get away with using an attorneys phone to listen to his/her client.





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The sociologist, and historian, Adam Ferguson described the phenomenon of spontaneous order in society as the "result of human action, but not the execution of any human design".
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Re: I wonder if the FBI can listen in on iPhone too?
Posted by: chas_m
Date: July 15, 2007 09:32PM
You should assume that EVERY telephone conversation of ANY kind is at least logged if not actually recorded.

What a horrible, horrible thing to say about America.

"This is not my beautiful house!"



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Re: I wonder if the FBI can listen in on iPhone too?
Posted by: Jp!
Date: July 15, 2007 10:14PM
if you would be a criminal, the cell phone is the worst thing you could carry. The day they found OJ Simpson's truck made that blazingly obvious.
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Re: I wonder if the FBI can listen in on iPhone too?
Posted by: bfd
Date: July 16, 2007 12:51AM
… since 9/11/2001, any personal freedoms guaranteed by the Bill of Rights have been essentially suspended.



Now get back to buyin' huge vehicles and iPhones, heah?
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Re: I wonder if the FBI can listen in on iPhone too?
Posted by: Jp!
Date: July 16, 2007 06:38AM
that reminds me, watching THE GOOD SHEPHERD right now (in sections since it's long), and those freedoms appear to have been curtailed long before 9/11.
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Re: I wonder if the FBI can listen in on iPhone too?
Posted by: BigGuynRusty
Date: July 16, 2007 03:14PM
Don't need the FBI, I can listen to your iPhone banter right now.

BGnR



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Re: I wonder if the FBI can listen in on iPhone too?
Posted by: BigGuynRusty
Date: July 16, 2007 03:18PM
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Jp!
that reminds me, watching THE GOOD SHEPHERD right now (in sections since it's long), and those freedoms appear to have been curtailed long before 9/11.

Nope, sorry.
Despite the paranoia, they could monitor, but couldn't use it against you.
Big difference after 9/11, they don't need proof, just a hunch.
And no matter how they got the info, they can use it against you.

BGnR



"Good heavens, Miss Sakamoto! You're beautiful!"
"If we dig precious things from the land, we will invite disaster."
"Near the day of Purification, there will be cobwebs spun back and forth in the sky."
"A container of ashes might one day be thrown from the sky, which could burn the land and boil the oceans."
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Re: I wonder if the FBI can listen in on iPhone too?
Posted by: bfd
Date: July 16, 2007 10:24PM
BGnR is right … telcos have been in bed with the FBI and their friends for a long, long time, but making the contents of wiretapping admissible in a courtroom was non-trivial, and in most cases impossible.

Not so in the Brave New World.

Still, if you can't do the time …
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Re: I wonder if the FBI can listen in on iPhone too?
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: July 17, 2007 08:04AM
Why do people think that the iPhone is some new subspace communications device that is unlike any other cell phone?
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Re: I wonder if the FBI can listen in on iPhone too?
Posted by: outcast
Date: July 17, 2007 01:43PM
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Lux Interior
Why do people think that the iPhone is some new subspace communications device that is unlike any other cell phone?

Because it's from Apple. Now stop asking questions and drink some more Kool-Aid.


outcast
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Re: I wonder if the FBI can listen in on iPhone too?
Posted by: Seacrest
Date: July 17, 2007 03:11PM
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bfd
making the contents of wiretapping admissible in a courtroom was non-trivial, and in most cases impossible.

OK, I give up.
WTF is a "court room?"
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Re: I wonder if the FBI can listen in on iPhone too?
Posted by: outcast
Date: July 17, 2007 05:44PM
American Heritage Dictionary

court·room
n. A room in which the proceedings of a court are held.

I thought that seemed obvious, but perhaps it's an ESL kind of thing.


outcast

P.S. My apologies for the post, but I'm feeling a bit snarky at the moment. I just hit a bit of "unpleasantness" with the line trimmer and I have to go take a shower...
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Re: I wonder if the FBI can listen in on iPhone too?
Posted by: Seacrest
Date: July 17, 2007 09:06PM
I know the definition of courtroom.
I was feigning ignorance of the term as the current powers in the Executive Branch seem to no longer have use for such quaint things as "courtrooms" and "due process."
Sorry you missed the joke.
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Re: I wonder if the FBI can listen in on iPhone too?
Posted by: RgrF
Date: July 18, 2007 12:40AM
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Lux Interior
Why do people think that the iPhone is some new subspace communications device that is unlike any other cell phone?

Because it has the ability to crash IT networks at colleges and universities throughout the world. Maybe the military/industrial complex might think twice about using them. Maybe we shouldn't tell them?



"Who's more foolish - the fool or the fool that follows him?" - Obi Wan Kenobi
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Re: I wonder if the FBI can listen in on iPhone too?
Posted by: MacMagus
Date: July 23, 2007 09:08AM
> I wonder if the FBI can listen in on iPhone too?

Yes. They can.

[forums.macresource.com]

Edit: ...And of course, they can also listen with embedded bugs, with directional mic's, with taps at the cells, with scanners, with their access to the switches at the phone company and with their taps on comm satellites.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/23/2007 09:11AM by MacMagus.
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