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Sex club or ptivate party?
Posted by: h'
Date: December 07, 2007 08:30PM
Not sure what to think about this one.

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Texas residential sex club ban roils swingers
Neighbors complained after home transformed into ‘The Cherry Pit’

updated 3:48 p.m. CT, Fri., Dec. 7, 2007

DUNCANVILLE, Texas - The most popular address on Cedar Ridge Drive is Jim Trulock’s split-level home, which has a group sex room and attracts as many as 100 people to swinger parties featuring “Naked Twister” nights.

But the festivities could soon be over. In response to neighbors’ complaints, the city has outlawed sex clubs in residential areas. Citations have been issued, and search warrants may be next.

“It’s crazy that they want to force their morality down our throats,” said Dawn Burton, 45, a regular guest at the parties. “We’re all frustrated.”
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So are those who complain of the noise, traffic and parking problems that occur in their otherwise quiet, upscale neighborhood every Friday and Saturday, when Trulock’s home is transformed into “The Cherry Pit.”

Unlikely venue
Duncanville, which proclaims itself “The Perfect Blend of Family, Community and Business,” is an unlikely venue for a neighborhood swinger club. The city of 36,000 just southwest of Dallas has about 50 places of worship and not a single registered sexually oriented business.

Duncanville officials insist they are not just another prudish Texas town giving the boot to spouse-swappers. They say it all boils down to a matter of law: Trulock is operating a business featuring live sex acts.

“It’s not trying to judge anyone or pass judgment on someone’s lifestyle,” city spokeswoman Tonya Lewis said.

To support its claim, the city notes that the Cherry Pit accepts money from guests and promotes the parties on its Web site.

“We’re not about infringing on the rights of the Cherry Pit patrons or owners,” Lewis said. “But now your right to have fun has infringed on everyone else’s. And now you have to draw the line.”

Other cities have wrestled with the same issue.

Phoenix, for example, prohibited live sexual performances in 1998, effectively outlawing swinger parties. An appeals court upheld the law in 2003, and Duncanville used it as a blueprint when passing a ban last month.

Retiree Jack Martin, who lives a block behind Trulock’s home, said he’s concerned that the parties will reduce the value of his property.

Others are annoyed by the procession of cars that crowd their street on weekend evenings, or the flood of strangers who descend on the neighborhood.

“If you’re going to do that, you should open a business,” Martin said. “Go somewhere where it’s allowed.”

Lawyer calls move 'an invasion of privacy'
Attorneys for Trulock, 59, say the Cherry Pit is nothing more than a private residence where a group of friends get together on weekends to socialize in whatever way they prefer.

While guests are encouraged to make “voluntary donations” to cover the cost of food and refreshments, organizers deny that anyone is being charged admission to his parties.

Ed Klein, an attorney for the Cherry Pit, said many guests give no money, but those who do often chip in $10 or $20. Klein said he plans to file a lawsuit next week that will challenge the constitutionality of the ordinance and seek a temporary retraining order against the city.

“I don’t think it’s persecution so much as an invasion of their privacy,” Klein said.

Arthur Leonard, a New York Law School professor who studies sexuality law, said the size of the parties might be a legal obstacle.

“It seems to me when you have that number of people involved, it becomes more like a public event,” Leonard said. “It seems unlikely that a court would find privacy protection for an event this large.”

The city has already cited Trulock with three violations, which carry a maximum $2,000 fine. Duncanville City Manager Kent Cagle this week pledged to continue enforcing the new law.

The case against the swinger parties “does appeal to a lot of people’s sense of morality,” said Lewis, the city spokeswoman. “That’s been a lot of complaints we’ve gotten from residents: ’I came to Duncanville to have a family. I didn’t come here to live next to a sex club.”’
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Re: Sex club or ptivate party?
Posted by: Webster J. Duck
Date: December 07, 2007 09:26PM
You want me Hoard, don't you.
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Re: Sex club or ptivate party?
Posted by: Tiogapass
Date: December 07, 2007 11:07PM
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“It’s crazy that they want to force their morality down our throats,” said Dawn Burton, 45,
a regular guest at the parties. “We’re all frustrated.”

Poor Dawn, no one in their right minds wants to see a 45 year old woman
naked I suggest you take up some other kind of hobby.

May I suggest you take up some rigorous, healthy sport for your frustration,
rather than indulge yourself in risky, aberrant behaviour? You will be less
frustrated and able to think. Then you may well understand the reasons why
mankind has frowned upon this type of activity for centuries.
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Re: Sex club or ptivate party?
Posted by: RgrF
Date: December 07, 2007 11:19PM
Shakey explores new territory as he moves from moron to idiot.



"Who's more foolish - the fool or the fool that follows him?" - Obi Wan Kenobi
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Imagine the smell.
Posted by: Harocho
Date: December 07, 2007 11:39PM
Bill Clintern could not be reached for comment.
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Re: Sex club or ptivate party?
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: December 08, 2007 12:38AM
I can think of plenty of 45 year old women I'd like to see naked.

Shakey, just because your mom was a spent old hag by the age of 33 doesn't mean all women are.
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I believe that some species of snakes are the only animals in nature that practice this.
Posted by: Berzeko
Date: December 08, 2007 09:31AM
Amen to what prior posters said. There is absolutely nothing "sexy" about a
bunch of 40 and 50 year old swingers playing naked Twister. The only thing
"provocative" about it is that it provokes the gag reflex.
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Re: Sex club or ptivate party?
Posted by: davester
Date: December 08, 2007 10:13AM
Shakeman, your moron-ness knowns no bounds.



"In science it often happens that scientists say, 'You know that's a really good argument; my position is mistaken,' and then they would actually change their minds and you never hear that old view from them again. They really do it. It doesn't happen as often as it should, because scientists are human and change is sometimes painful. But it happens every day. I cannot recall the last time something like that happened in politics or religion." (1987) -- Carl Sagan
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Re: I believe that some species of snakes are the only animals in nature that practice this.
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: December 08, 2007 10:19AM
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Berzeko
Amen to what prior posters said. There is absolutely nothing "sexy" about a
bunch of 40 and 50 year old swingers playing naked Twister. The only thing
"provocative" about it is that it provokes the gag reflex.

And what business is it of yours, shakey? We don't harass you about your sexual fetishes (usually latent homosexuality in ultra-conservative Christians).

Women I would like to play naked twister with:

Halle Berry (40)



Sharon Stone (48)



Susan Sarandon (50)

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Re: Sex club or ptivate party?
Posted by: Ruby Begonia
Date: December 08, 2007 11:07AM
I really do NOT appreciate the sentiments from the poster Tiogapass. Are you assuming
that 45 year old women cannot be attractive??? This 45 year-old woman looks about the same
as she did when she was 25. Sure, not everyone ages well--some people do fall apart or start to
sag...but some of us do still look good too. I know a lot of 20-somethings that are saggy and
wrinkled already, while there have been some 50 - 60 year olds who are still gorgeous. Age is
NOT always relevant.

Anyway, I can't wait until you get a little older and someone comments about your
pot-belly and loss of hair.
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Re: Sex club or ptivate party?
Posted by: h'
Date: December 08, 2007 11:16AM
Funny how the topic of sex brings out the sock puppets and anonymous cowards.
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Re: Sex club or ptivate party?
Posted by: La_tuya
Date: December 08, 2007 02:34PM
Now that I can understand... Thank you

I was looking at the comments after the article on SFGate...some people there seem to think
there is nothing wrong with this stuff. Ugh. It isn't like they just have a handful of people
over and are quietly doing whatever they want in the privacy of their own home--these
weirdos have up to 100 people (do they realize how many people that really is???) going
in and out of that place. The noise, traffic, parking and everything else is a genera
l nuisance anyway. I would cite them simply for disturbing the peace! I sure hope they
uphold the new city ordinances.

Signed, A young, attractive and decent 45 year old
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Re: Sex club or ptivate party?
Posted by: BCam
Date: December 14, 2007 01:09AM
So a bunch of people all go to a house, party hardy, drink, eat and have sex, chip in for the munchies and keg and sleep it off.

This is different from a normal weekend Frat Party at Texas Tech, U of T or any other state funded institution for higher learning in Texas how exactly?
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Re: Sex club or ptivate party?
Posted by: RgrF
Date: December 14, 2007 02:05AM
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BCam
So a bunch of people all go to a house, party hardy, drink, eat and have sex, chip in for the munchies and keg and sleep it off.

This is different from a normal weekend Frat Party at Texas Tech, U of T or any other state funded institution for higher learning in Texas how exactly?

Well the UT kids only have to do a morning seach for their retainers, the older folks have dentures, meds, and all those toys to find.



"Who's more foolish - the fool or the fool that follows him?" - Obi Wan Kenobi
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I sure hope that the neighbors and city win this one, this has such a YUCK factor.
Date: December 15, 2007 11:44PM
Anonymous sex parties are a magnet for the strange and dangerous. The neighbors are very
right to complain.

[www.showipaddress.com]
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Re: Sex club or ptivate party?
Posted by: Pelgrayso
Date: December 16, 2007 05:11PM
said Dawn Burton, 45, a regular guest at the parties. "We're all frustrated."

Then you must be doing it wrong.
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