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Poll-- should Spiotzer resign?
Posted by: Black Landlord
Date: March 11, 2008 06:41AM
Dumb-azz text poll on the local news . . .like anyone's gonna say "no"??
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Re: Poll-- should Spiotzer resign?
Posted by: Black Landlord
Date: March 11, 2008 06:42AM
Subject line typo in place . . . check.
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Re: Poll-- should Spiotzer resign?
Posted by: RgrF
Date: March 11, 2008 06:57AM
Why should anyone except those who voted him into office (hear that Steve, Pops and Jimbo?) give a crap.

I could hope Arny were running an escort service out of Maria's closet but even that might not be enough out here. It is curious how the Feds just happen to glom onto so many Democratic gubernatorial offenders but thats maybe best left for another thread.



"Who's more foolish - the fool or the fool that follows him?" - Obi Wan Kenobi
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Re: Poll-- should Spiotzer resign?
Posted by: Black Landlord
Date: March 11, 2008 07:00AM
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RgrF
Why should anyone except those who voted him into office (hear that Steve, Pops and Jimbo?) give a crap.

I could hope Arny were running an escort service out of Maria's closet but even that might not be enough out here. It is curious how the Feds just happen to glom onto so many Democratic gubernatorial offenders but thats maybe best left for another thread.


So is that a "no" vote?
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Re: Poll-- should Spiotzer resign?
Posted by: RgrF
Date: March 11, 2008 07:16AM
It's not a vote, he's not my Gov. I get no vote on Larry Craig or the guy. Vittner, from Louisiana either. We ought to grow up and let politicians take their sex where they can find it.

Hypocrites don't get any slack, how's that?



"Who's more foolish - the fool or the fool that follows him?" - Obi Wan Kenobi
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Re: Poll-- should Spiotzer resign?
Posted by: blooz
Date: March 11, 2008 08:04AM
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Black Landlord
Subject line typo in place . . . check.

LOL!

If I lived in NY, I'd say yes, but I don't so i won't say anything.



And we should consider every day lost on which we have not danced at least once.
—Friedrich Nietzsche
Western Massachusetts
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Re: Poll-- should Spiotzer resign?
Posted by: Black Landlord
Date: March 11, 2008 08:20AM
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RgrF
We ought to grow up and let politicians take their sex where they can find it.

Hypocrites don't get any slack, how's that?

I agree with your first statement . . . and your second. But they seem to conflict (?)
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Re: Poll-- should Spiotzer resign?
Posted by: samintx
Date: March 11, 2008 09:35AM
yes
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Re: Poll-- should Spiotzer resign?
Posted by: freeradical
Date: March 11, 2008 10:39AM
Spitzer should stay on and fight the good fight.
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Re: Poll-- should Spiotzer resign?
Posted by: Black Landlord
Date: March 11, 2008 11:00AM
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freeradical
Spitzer should stay on and fight the good fight.

Seriously?
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Re: Poll-- should Spiotzer resign?
Posted by: maco
Date: March 11, 2008 11:16AM
His chances of staying in office, however, would vanish if prosecutors charged him under the 1910 Mann Act--known at the time as the White-Slave Taffic Act. Passed at the end of the Progressive era during the height of a moral panic over alleged "white slavery"--the Mann Act banned the interstate transport of women for "immoral purposes." It's survived numerous court challenges and modifications by Congress over the years, but it's still on the books. Spitzer arranged for the prostitute's Amtrak ticket from New York to Washington (and her hotel room), so he could be subject to federal felony charges under the present day incarnation of the Mann Act. Indeed, the four defendants charged last week in the sting that swept up Spitzer were charged under the act.
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Re: Poll-- should Spiotzer resign?
Posted by: vision63
Date: March 11, 2008 11:56AM
I wouldn't quit. Stuff happens. He didn't really do anything except to his wife. Make him pay the money back and move on.
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Re: Poll-- should Spiotzer resign?
Posted by: Black Landlord
Date: March 11, 2008 12:09PM
Er . . . didn't he have staffers helping him arrange the payments? Didn't he set the payments up in such a way that they could/would be declared as "business expenses"?
It's not like he was caught with his pants down at a rest stop . . .
I'd have more sympathy if his response, instead of "I've let myself down", was "we need to move forward and legalize prostitution so upstanding citizens will not be forced to resort to such financial practices".
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Re: Poll-- should Spiotzer resign?
Posted by: SLM
Date: March 11, 2008 12:45PM
Only if he was naked and doing lines off his gay masseurs ass.
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Re: Poll-- should Spiotzer resign?
Posted by: (vikm)
Date: March 11, 2008 01:52PM
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SLM
Only if he was naked and doing lines off his gay masseurs ass.

Damn you... you beat me to it. That's exactly what i was gonna say.
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Re: Poll-- should Spiotzer resign?
Posted by: Black Landlord
Date: March 11, 2008 02:08PM
You guys seem to have gay sex on the brain today.
Is craigslist down?
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Re: Poll-- should Spiotzer resign?
Posted by: guitarist
Date: March 11, 2008 07:58PM
I may be one of the few here that agree with Alan Dershowitch and James Carville....this whole "scandal" reeks of retribution, at worst, or Puritanism, at best.

Not defending the guy, never had any thoughts about him either way.

Did he use public money to hire hookers? No? He used his own money? Really? Did I miss something? Is this actually news? That public officials (or corporate officers) or working class Joes have private vices or sexual kinks? And like to hire party tail? Bad manners, maybe, but corrupt governance, that's questionable.

His mistake was being sloppy, being a high-value target, and getting caught. Other than undermining his credibility as a warrior for Justice, and making a joke out himself and his pathetic sex life, it's not clear that his crime was really so great, or so unique.

(the exception I'd consider is the possibility of blackmail that comes with guarding secret behaviors, and the fear of exposure, that does legitimately compromise the public trust)

It might be more fun to throw him to the wolves (his enemies on Wall Street, and in government) and let them feast on his carcass for the rest of his term.

At least his enemies on the Republican side could learn from his mistake, and benefit from his taste in women; Republicans are poor tippers (according to DC working girls) and have much cheaper and skankier taste, even going as far as using Airport Men's Rooms for extracurricular action. (excluding Clinton, of course, who's taste in women isn't so good) While most Democrats (also according to a poll of DC working girls) are too busy having affairs with each other to bother picking up the phone to order out! But when they do, they're less discreet, but tip better.

Let him serve out his term. New York deserves him, they earned it!
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Re: Poll-- should Spiotzer resign?
Posted by: spearmint
Date: March 11, 2008 08:50PM
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RgrF
It's not a vote, he's not my Gov. I get no vote on Larry Craig or the guy. Vittner, from Louisiana either. We ought to grow up and let politicians take their sex where they can find it.

Hypocrites don't get any slack, how's that?

Hey the Clinton era is over for now. Buffet ethics on hold till November.




Da Good Life
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Re: Poll-- should Spiotzer resign?
Posted by: rgG
Date: March 11, 2008 08:54PM
The problem I have with what he did is that he so zealously persecuted others for such and similar offenses. If he thinks that it is OK for him to do something like this, then why did he take such a hard line stance with others. It is the hypocrisy of the situation that makes it so objectionable, to me.





Roswell, GA (Atlanta suburb)
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Re: Poll-- should Spiotzer resign?
Posted by: spearmint
Date: March 11, 2008 09:44PM
He has a chance now to maybe quietly disappear and be a bad memory. His pathetic hanging on to power makes me think he is really delusional about consequences. Needs a btchslap bad to bring him to reality. Wifey hopefully is providing lots of these. She has got to dump this bum for her self respect unlike someone we know from TV.




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