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Critical Mass
Posted by: RgrF
Date: February 21, 2009 04:28AM
Anyone remember the tempest in a teapot this created?
cop attacks cyclist

The upshot is the officer was fired last week and faces assault charges as a civilian. The NYPD PBA is leaving him out to dry on his own.



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Re: Critical Mass
Posted by: NeverMind
Date: February 21, 2009 09:02AM
He resigned, he wasn't fired.
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Re: Critical Mass
Posted by: Black
Date: February 21, 2009 09:21AM
Source?




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Re: Critical Mass
Posted by: Black
Date: February 21, 2009 09:33AM
Never mind . . .
[www.nytimes.com]




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Re: Critical Mass
Posted by: JoeH
Date: February 21, 2009 10:01AM
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He resigned, he wasn't fired.

His lawyer says he resigned, the NYPD says fired. I don't see the NYPD saying fired except if they meant exactly that, sounds like spin/face-saving attempt by the lawyer. At most it might mean he was given the option of signing resignation paperwork and taking his pension contributions with him, or being fired and getting nothing.



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Re: Critical Mass
Posted by: Black
Date: February 21, 2009 10:47AM
"Forced to resign", most likely. Although the fact that the NYPD is spinning this leaves the possibility open that it's not even really a resignation. In as much as I understand anything about the way the universe works, I believe the greatest likelihood is that we'll find out somewhere down the road that the guy slipped quietly back onto the job.
The NYPD didn't morph into a different entity in the course of a few months.

Aside from that, at 23, I wonder how much of a pension he could have . . .




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Re: Critical Mass
Posted by: JoeH
Date: February 21, 2009 11:31AM
Looking it up, the youngest officers have the highest required pension contribution rate of over 8% of salary. That includes money put in by the city. If fired, they lose it all. In addition, they are not eligible for rehire if they were terminated for cause. If the officer is not convicted on the criminal charges he faces, then he might be eligible to be rehired if they did not go through the whole process of officially firing him before he put in resignation paperwork. But the NYPD and the PBA already have egg on the face from the initial knee-jerk support of the officer and his self-serving police report before the video came out. So it may be very unlikely he would make it back onto the NYPD, he could be considered too much an embarrassment. So he might not have a pension, but he does have money in the pension fund to protect. Even if he could never get another job with NYPD, if not convicted it might also leave him the possibility of getting a police job elsewhere.



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Re: Critical Mass
Posted by: Pops
Date: February 21, 2009 11:55AM
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Even if he could never get another job with NYPD, if not convicted it might also leave him the possibility of getting a police job elsewhere.
He could move north a bit. He'd fit in perfectly with Schenectady's police department.
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Re: Critical Mass
Posted by: NeverMind
Date: February 22, 2009 12:46AM
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JoeH
Even if he could never get another job with NYPD, if not convicted it might also leave him the possibility of getting a police job elsewhere.
He could move north a bit. He'd fit in perfectly with Schenectady's police department.

ouch.
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