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Pa. judge bans teaching of "Intelligent Design"
Posted by: Gutenberg
Date: December 20, 2005 11:15AM
The ruling apparently applies only to the Dover school district, but Judge John E. Jones ruled that requiring the teaching of "Intelligent Design" violates the establishment of religion clause of the First Amendment:

[news.yahoo.com]

Edit: Here is a more detailed story on the decision:

[news.yahoo.com]



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/20/2005 11:19AM by Gutenberg.
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Re: Pa. judge bans teaching of "Intelligent Design"
Posted by: lafinfil
Date: December 20, 2005 03:07PM
Yep and he gave the school board quite a tongue lashing about allowing
outside activist come in and take over and for wasting taxpayers money.





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Re: Pa. judge bans teaching of "Intelligent Design"
Posted by: GrumpyOldMan
Date: December 20, 2005 11:24PM
Why stop with Intelligent Design for those unable to really understand evolution?

Reproductive physiology is complicated; better to teach the kids that a stork brings babies.

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Re: Pa. judge bans teaching of "Intelligent Design"
Posted by: endymion
Date: December 21, 2005 12:39AM
> All that was to be done was to have the teachers read a short statement.

Yes, but it was the context of that statement, before science classes teaching observation of facts, development and testing of hypotheses, verifiably and repeatably.

It would be like reading this statement before english class: "Grammar is just one way of assembling words into sentences so that other people may understand them. You can, however, make up words and construct sentences randomly amongst your friends and understand each other. Just don't expect anyone else you try to communicate with to understand you if you are speaking nonsense."

Flip the coin on it's head and say that scientists wanted to have the following statement read before a religion class: "The Bible is a malleable, modified and translated interpretation of the word of God as selectively passed down through the ages. It does not adequately address the realities of human survival in the material world; instead of blindly believing what your clergy tells you about God's will, go out and experiment with all of your capacities to better understand the world you live in and why you are here."

Both statements are obvious, totally inappropriate and completely unnecessary to declare in a classroom where there is a specific objective to educate about the world and the contexts in which we coexist with one another.

Why are proponents of intelligent design so afraid of the "evolutionary" educational orthodoxy that they feel the need to bring very unscientific methods into environments where they don't belong? Scientists certainly don't feel the need to do so with religion; in fact many of the best scientists have gone on the record with their own very strong faiths to promote greater harmony between faith and science. Science can tell us the what and the how of the world; religion can give us the why.
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Re: Pa. judge bans teaching of "Intelligent Design"
Posted by: JPK
Date: December 21, 2005 11:05AM
When did "Creation" get this new PC term "Intelligent Design"?

I don't plan on joining this debate, but do think it is interesting that even this now has politically correct spin to it.

JPK
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Re: Pa. judge bans teaching of "Intelligent Design"
Posted by: davester
Date: December 21, 2005 03:26PM
They changed the name to give them the potential for a new supreme court ruling allowing religion to be taught in science class.

"The term was again resurrected when in 1987 the Supreme Court of the United States, in the case of Edwards v. Aguillard, ruled out teaching creationism in schools in the U.S.A.. In drafts of the book Of Pandas and People, the word 'creationism' was subsequently changed almost verbatim to intelligent design. The book was published in 1989 and is considered by its authors to be the first intelligent design textbook for use by school children." [en.wikipedia.org]
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Re: Pa. judge bans teaching of "Intelligent Design"
Posted by: Kiva
Date: December 21, 2005 08:27PM
"The Bible is a malleable, modified and translated interpretation of the word of God as selectively passed down through the ages. It does not adequately address the realities of human survival in the material world; instead of blindly believing what your clergy tells you about God's will, go out and experiment with all of your capacities to better understand the world you live in and why you are here."


great stuff smiling smiley


keep in mind that the politicians like to keep us talking about religion, gay marriage, etc. so that we won't actually notice that their ability to do the rest of their jobs plain sux.

kiva
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Re: Pa. judge bans teaching of "Intelligent Design"
Posted by: RgrF
Date: December 22, 2005 10:39PM
Kiva Wrote:
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> keep in mind that the politicians like to keep us
> talking about religion, gay marriage, etc. so that
> we won't actually notice that their ability to do
> the rest of their jobs plain sux.
>
> kiva

Astute observation, how many people died before their time in Iraq today?





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